Norton Internet Security 2003

Hi ... I have a Norton Internet Security 2003 disk here and i am curious about something if someone could help me here i was just wondering if i could just install norton antivirus only and if so how so ???

 

I'm wondering the same thing.

Someone has asked me to install NIS which I refuse to do. Haven't tried to install just the AV yet.

Regards - Charles

 

When you put the CD and let it start there is a Custon Install ( If I remember correctly ) where you can choose what does or does not get installed.

The same goes for Syste, Works. I only installed the utilities from it.

BillyBob

 

With Norton NIS 2003 you want to do the custom install anyway so that you don't install the "Parental Control Feature" that will install by default. Why would you not want the Internet Security, only the AV? I bought this product because I wanted the convenience of both products, or I would have purchased them separately. Just curious.
btw, the IS is fully configurable. I specified exactly what was allowed to access the net, and what is not. (Why does M$ Office need to call home anyway??) I also like the way NIS can be set to report all activity.
A word of advice: Install immediately after the OS, before any other programs, with the modem unplugged. After installation, turn on the modem and run Live Update until it comes back empty at least twice.
Johanna

 

How and when you install Norton products depends on what was installed already.

If norton was installed YES, uninstall the old first. But if Norton behaves properly it will not let you put in the new untill the old is gone anyway. In fact I have found that letting the new install remove the old is the better way to go.

If you have just freshly installed the OS, YES make Norton the first item of business. And YES let it go online with the liveupdate ASAP before doing anything else. And YES run it until it does comeback clean.

The idea of getting NIS into a new OS first is so the when you install other stuff that wants to call home you can say NO if you wish. This helps to keep a lot of unwanted trash off of the machiine.

I no longer use Norton but I would still make the install Anti-Virus and Firewall software as the first item of business if I were to do a clean install of the OS. Especially with me bring on cable Internet.

BillyBob

 

I must be missing something somewhere again.

I fail to see how a Firewall ( NIS ) that is not installed can handle anything.

Unless you are thinking of the useless XP oneway ( incoming only ) XP Firewall. And I am not so sure that that blocks everything. Don't know there as I never used it. And do not need it. My Router is a EXCELLENT replacement for it.

Plus if NIS is not installed there is no AV software either. Unless you have something else loaded.

 

If NIS is not enabled, I don't have the modem plugged in, therefore I am OFFLINE. XP's firewall is useless (lets any info out!) I like to install NIS first so that I can see what wants to call home, and decide whether to let it. You can also do this manually: NIS will scan all internet capable applications, and then you can set the behavior from there. One of the great things about Norton, in addition to the Symantec support, is that you can "set it and forget it" I like the tattletale globe, too, that lets me see all internet activity. Norton can actually "boss" M$, too, and that's always a cheap thrill. Still trying to figure out why some software (like Word!) thinks it needs to call home regularly. Not paranoid, just curious. LOL
Johanna

 

Good Morning Christer

I do not use NIS but Kerio which is just as good with less ( far less ) system loading.

And Kerio and AVG are not as OS specific as NIS can be. They install the same. Setup up the same in anything from 98FE to XP Pro. Leave ME out of all this because it is in a world all its own.

And with NIS the AV and Firewall use a lot of SHARED files and if one goes haywire it can disrupt the other. I much prefer standalone programs " whar one has nuttin to do wid da udder. "

No we are not talking past each other. And all we are really doing is stating different ways of doing things. And showing others the different ways. And our resaons for the different way

I like it myself.

You say it make no difference whether NIS is installed first or last.

I say it does. I say I like to get every bit of protection that I can installed BEFORE the machine ever goes online THE FRIST TIME. And then I do not need to worry about unplugging the Modem or anythings else.

The protection is available why work around it. Use it to the fullest. Install it and let it help. Which it does.

However, during the installation of software it is recommended to disable the firewall and anti virus software. Since a fresh install means installing a lot of software, I see no reason to install them just to disable them.

I myself have never disabled AV to install anything. How ever I am not saying that that is a better idea though. I have just never had a problem. Kerio and AVG have never bothered a thing. NAV did. Accorrding to the way I had it set. If I had it set to check all files then it good be a real PITA.

If I do a clean install ( which I have not done in years other than this install of XP I do unplug the Modem. But The FIRST items I install are AV and Firewall. And when they are installed the modem is plugged back in and AV and Firewall updates optained.

Now by doing it that way if the OOPS !! I forgot situation arises my backside is covered very nicely.

Also you may be forgetting something else about the Firewall. With it disabled ANY BODY can get into your machine at any time. And all behind yours back.

I like to lock the door BEFORE the thieves get in.

That is my BIGGEST reason for getting the Firewall in ASAP. But of course with a Router that part is not as much af a concern.

Coffee time. I checked here before even getting my first cup.

BillyBob

 

I forgot about this.

What has that got to do with when NIS is installed ?

You are talking past me on that.

BB

 

Hello Johanna,

"Still trying to figure out why some software (like Word!) thinks it needs to call home regularly. "

Its Word's update feature. I've disabled it on 9X and I've done that on XP.

Regards - Charles

 

Yeah, but Charles, how much updating can a product like that need??? I've disabled the auto update on everything, too, but in my nightmares I picture a demented soul calling on every internet enabled application to revolt and bring the pc experience as we know it to a screeching halt.

My point was only that with the tattletale, no internet activity occurs without a record, or an alert if you want it. My mom's new HP, fully loaded, came out of the box with 143 internet enabled trash software apps, and dumping all that garbage speeded things up quite a bit. Her experience is why I will never tell anyone to get XP Home, either, but I'll save that for another thread! LOL!

Cheers from Ohio!
Johanna

 

Hi Johanna,

Looking for updates, just in case there is one, you never know

Seriously, as you pointed out, lots of apps behave this way, so this not exclusive to MS. Agreed, a huge PIA.

Regards - Charles

BTW, almost forgot, the only way I was able to disable Word's "emissary" to Redmond, was to change the object's name by one character, otherwise just kept restarting itself. In this way, MS is unique, they own the environment.

Regards - Charles

 

I just use Norton to block those connections, instead. Like I said earlier, there is no other software other than Symantec's (that I know of- correct me if I am wrong!) that can boss M$.
Johanna
not paranoid, just conservative...

 

"Still trying to figure out why some software (like Word!) thinks it needs to call home regularly. "

MORE & MORE software is being set to Call Home all by itself.

Its Word's update feature. I've disabled it on 9X and I've done that on XP.

Yes, that choice is available. But it DOES NOT always hold with everything. The Blocking by the Firewall does. I have had it hold untill I restarted the machine just to find it back to the default. And it seems that if it is blocked by the Firewall then the Auto Update won't even run because it can't make a connection

The ONLY software I allow to Auto Update is my AVG7 Anti-Virus. That to me is the most important one. And I am not so sure that I have not dis-abled that too. Or changed a setting. It has not come up yet today. And maybe the machine was not on at the time it is set for. Gotta check into that.

Johanna

In regards to your notes on your Moms' machine.

Yes they do come pre-loaded with a LOT of extra stuff that most of us may not use. But do not blame that on XP Home or Pro. That is vender doing. It is so called added features by the Vender. But the basic Windows OS is supposed to be the same. ( I wonder but can not really say it is not )

BillyBob

 

Hey BillyBob,

"Yes, that choice is available. But it DOES NOT always hold with everything. The Blocking by the Firewall does "

Yes, of course. I just don't want anything running if not used.

There are exceptions, the lastest Google Toolbar which has an auto-upate feature. It's a BHO, bypassing the firewall unless the firewall has a component blocking feature such as ZAP. Never used Kerio or Symantecs firewall so don't know if they have that feature or not.

Regards - Charles

I'm using Sygate v5.1 free on XP, no component blocking, use SSM http://maxcomputing.narod.ru/ssme.html?lang
for that sort of thing.