new hard rive not recognized

Upon swapping a new 60 gig hard drive (could not resist a boxing day real bargain) the system does not recognize the new larger hard drive.
The computer starts. Stops at identifying drive.
The Win 98 setup process comes on. However the setup process identifies that it cannot identify the hard drive.
The "jumper settings" are set to "master "
The drove detection is set to "autodetect "
The bios does not list any information about the new larger drive.
The cables are seated properly.
The "speed demon" is an Amd 350 with Win 98 se. Previous
drive was a 4 gig unit.
Obviously the older smaller 4 gig drive has been swapped
back and the computer works well.
Any ideas before I take the computer to a helpfull tech for diagnosis and repair ???

 

Hi Schamish.

Your new hdd probably won't be recognized until you run fdisk, split it into separate drives (30-32 Gigs or less each drive, windows limitation) and format each drive. If you eventually go XP and NTFS you can make it all one drive but under Win98SE it will necessitate splitting into partitions which constitute separate drives. Also be aware that your cd or cd-rw will jump down a letter or two depending on how many drives you split it into.

If you need very detailed data, I would look up and print out a step-by-step so you can reference it. There are lots of them here and there.

One more thing. Some hdds won't run with the jumpers set to master unless there is an actual slave hdd attached. If that is the case with the new drive, you might pull the jumper. It should say on the case. I assume that the old drive will not be in the system at all. Highly recommed not using the old drive.

 

thanks

On question. If the computer does not recognize the new
hard drive at all how can I run Fdisk and partition the new larger
hard drive ?
thanks for the tips on the relettering of the hard drive. I am sure the issue would of kept me up all night.
Windows windows windows
reminds me of the story of a friend of mine ( a pharmaceutical
salesman) whose company computerized. This will help to make
you more efficient and save time.
As a spiff the company sent a router and told him to share
his high speed cable connection with his wife's computer. They
would pay for the broadband.
Well the computer went down and ws diagnosed by a knowledgable friend as a defective router.
When he called head office the I.T. person assured him that
no way that it could be the router. After an unproductive
full morning of over the phone computer diagnosis - the
"expert" finally identified the problem as a defective router.
My friend was told to courier the router to Montreal. And on friday afternoon he spent the whole afternon in line at the
courier. The router could of been replaced for less than the
courier shipping charges (both ways).
This was all in the name of....
The next week he got an important e-mail "Do not under
any circumstances take the laptop computer into your car ".
However he is enjoying the novelty of getting e-mail messages
from unknown fellow company employees in Panama.!!!!!

 

Must be Canadian.. I didn't get it.

Is the drive bare? I mean did it come in a box with install disks? If not, go to the manufacturer's web site and download the install program. If it did, just boot with the install disks and follow the prompts.

I have WD and the install disk will prepare the disk and also copy your old disk to the new one. I think Maxtor is the same.

Let us know how things are going.

 

If the hard drive doesn't show up in the bios on boot then either the jumpers are set wrong or the drive is just bad. This is assuming that the cables and motherboard are good because the 4 gig works.

If the new drive shows up on the screen in the bios before it starts to boot from the floppy then fdisk and format as noted earlier. You won't see the new hard drive from dos until you run fdisk and format.

 

Hello Schamish

Yes both Bmoore and Giles are correct.

It has to show up in BIOS first!

Schamish listen closely to the computer start up.

The drove makes a spinup sound followed by a few purrs and clicks before going silent. This is seperate from the power supply sound.

If you do not hear this the drive is not powering up.

If you are not sure what to listen for, listen to another computer power up to hear the sound I speak ok.

BTW! If the old HD was working no need to take whole computer to shop unless that is the shop where you purchased the HD.

As BMoore said you need the installation setup disks because if this computer is from the 4G HD era. You will almost for certain need these to add BIOS support for this drive.

This software will also allow you to hook old drive back up and transfer the old drve c: so you can boot right up.

Mike

 

Hi Schamish.

Switch the drives, give it a shot and let us know whats happening. Also, consider:

You need a boot floppy with an FDISK and FORMAT program to boot from. If you're trying to boot from the new drive it won't work (not sure how deep you understand the process). You may also need to change your bios to boot from a floppy if it isn't set to do that.

Your BIOS will definitely recognize the hard drive assuming it is an IDE drive. It might not give you full capacity but it will recognize it as installed.

Give it a try and let us know.

 

drive now working well

Well the drive is up and running. You were right it was something with the bios not being able to recognize such a large hard drive (60 gig now 4 gig previously)
A more knowledgeable person than myself " set the jumper
cables to a mzximum of 32 gig and then installed a program called
Ez-Bios to enable the drive to operate as a 60 gig hard drive "

thanks again

 

Yo.

Way to go. Congratulations.

If your friend has any more of those jumper cables, I'd like a set for my museum.

Thanks for letting us know.

 

LOL!

Yeah Giles you are right. I wonder how he got those big alligator clips on those tiny pins. It would work though. LOL!

Great Schamish now do you think you can stay out of trouble for a while!! LOL!


Mike