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Netscape 7.2 to MS Outlook

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by waterflea, 2005/10/18.

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    waterflea

    waterflea Inactive Thread Starter

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    Okay
    I've tried your suggestions on how to import messages from NS 7.2 to Outlook Express and then to Outlook. The address book seems to go but the the program shuts off as soon as the messages start to get imported. What am I doing wrong and will this all be worth the effort when I, if I, finish?
    Thanks for the help :confused:
     
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    waterflea Inactive Thread Starter

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    More infomation

    Maybe I didn't do this right from the beginning. Help me out.
    In the instructions it says to copy the mail files without msf extensions. I know how I did this, not sure if it was right or not.
    First question:
    How and where do you find the mail files in Netscape 7.2?
    How do you copy just the files without MSF extensions? Do you copy and paste each file individually?
    Where exactly in Netscape 4.8 (the version I have) do you paste these files?
    Let's stop here and see if I've got this much right.
    Thanks for all your help!!!
     

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    http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7mailtoOEorO.html

    You were probably looking at the above link. Do you know where the NS7.2 profile? .
    The link I just gave you should lead you to the correct place. Regardless of the Operating System (OS), the path will be similar, i.e. Profiles(probably "default ")/
    xxxxx.slt/Mail/accountname, and you will be looking for the Inbox and Sent files, and if you have subfolders, the .sbd folder.
    NS4.x's Mail is located in Program Files/Netscape/Users/ etc. Same type of files, except that you will have the header files in the .snm format, instead of .msf. That's why you don't want to copy the header files.
    You asked if you have to copy and paste individual files, and I would say that the answer is yes. You should not have to do this any more than for two files.
    The Inbox holds the incoming mail, the Sent file, the outgoing mail. It is no big deal, unless you have a complicated system (I have 12 e-mail accounts, and some have subfolders). I am sure that you will do ok. I suggest that you delete unneeded mail, empty the Trash, and, most important compact your mail before exiting NS7.2 to do the copy and paste.
    Just a word of caution, your present copied Inbox will replace the Inbox existing in NS4.x
    just to save you some time, if you wish to import the address book(s), export each one, from the Address Book, in the .ldif format, and save the file to a convenient place. You can import it later.
     
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    waterflea Inactive Thread Starter

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    more help please!

    ok I found the profile folder. After going through 2 more folders I get to the Mail folder. Inside this I find 4 more folders. Local, Mail, mail.adelphia.net (which has about six folders labeled .sbd and all my subfolders) and a pop.tds.net folder (tds is my old dailup company, I now use adelphia cable) The m.a.n. folder has about 30 of my subfolders with their appropriate headings and the same thing with .msf after the name. So my guess is I have found the right folder, now do I copy each of those sub files and paste them to NS4.8 or can I create a new folder and paste them to it and then transfer it to NS4.8. I just don't want to ***** this up.
    Also how do you compact your mail before exiting NS7.2
    Thanks for the help
    Bruce
     
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    File|Compact Folders

    Copy the files is safe, because you can't mess up the original stuff, even if you mess up the destination.
    Since you have two mail accounts to deal with, I suggest that you set up your present valid account, first. That will set up your 4.8 Inbox, and other basic files. I would get all the mail in 7.2, and, only then Copy the Inbox, and Paste it into the 4.8 Users folder. You want to do this slowly, so that you can familiarize yourself with the set up. So, paste the Inbox, which will replace the one in 4.8.
    I would then open 4.8, and see if the Inbox is showing up everything. It should, if you did it right. Remember, again, that you do all these manipulations in Windows Explorer, with both Netscapes closed. You will open only 4.8 to check it. If you feel confortable, you do the same with the Sent file. Then on to the subfolders. When you have finished pasting all the subfolders, into 4.8, open one by one, and delete all the .msf files. Finally, you can open 4.8, and you should see all the subfolders.
    Now, you will have to deal with the tds.net account. You can have only one account at the time in 4.8, and if the account is no longer accessible, you will have to copy the 7.2 Inbox, and paste it into the same folder. The "Copy of the Inbox" should be Renamed to let's say:Inboxtds, or something like that, and only then Copies and Pasted into the 4.8 account. You should have in 4.8, an Inbox, Inboxtds, and also the subfolders. I can be quite a job, and you could have backups of the account folders, but, it is best if you maintain 7.2 to the end, to avoid losses of new mail. But the entire .tds account could be copie and pasted right near the User folder, even in it, so that you don't have to go long way. Just don't Cut and Paste, or Move, or drag and drop, because if you mess up, you have had it. The original stuff is gone, but it is ok to copy and paste the entire account folders in a convenient location.
    It will take time, but it is doable.
    Remember that you right click|Copy, Paste or Rename, as required.
     
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    waterflea Inactive Thread Starter

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    learning all the time

    ok talk to me. One of the things that has been confusing me is that I thought my inbox was empty. On my browser it's empty. when I look into it on explorer, it is full of every email I've written since 2001. How can I delete those? I don't need to be transporting those back and forth.
     
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    If you did not compact your Inbox,after deleting mail, it is still associated with the Inbox. I compact each account at least twice a day, because a lot of the deleted mail is spam, and I want to get rid of it. The only way that you can make sure is to look at the size of the Inbox, in Windows Explorer.
    Once a fellow told me that he had four e-mails, but his Inbox was over 18 MB. This is not so bad, as size goes, but a single compacting reduced it to a more reasonable 50 kB.
    It all depends on the size of the Windows Explorer's file. You can right click the Inbox, and select Compact this folder, or File|Compact folders.
     
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    waterflea Inactive Thread Starter

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    ??????

    Thanks Westside for your help
    I have Win 2000 so once I right clicked the inbox file, go to properties, advanced, check off compress file and apply, it still shows that I have the same amount of space used but is highlighted in blue instead of black. I did this to my inbox, draft, sent and trash files. Does this mean I have saved some space on my hard disc or what. should i do this to all my sub folders? does compressing them mean I no longer have easy access to them?
    Another question.
    my hard disc has a capacity of 19Gb, 17.7 being used. Should start to thinkabout increaseing. Should I just add another bigger harddrive or replace what I have? A friend told me to add and use the new one to store infomation only. What's your take?
     
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    I am not sure why you did what you described. I meant File|Compact while you are in NS mail. I am unfamiliar with the way you describe, but I guess that it would be doable.
    As for your hard drive, I would think that if you did not do anything to your mail, you may have a lot of unnecessary stuff. Your friend suggestion is quite good, but I am sure that you could do a lot by removing plain junk, like the Temp files.
     
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    waterflea Inactive Thread Starter

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    got it done!!

    Thanks for the help westside. Now how do I stop netscape mail from popping up everytime I open my browser?
     

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