Netscape 7.2 email rqst rejected by ATT.YAHOO

I just replaced Communicator 4.78 with Netscape 7.2 in order to download email from the new ATT site : pop.att.yahoo.com. The set up messages seemed to indicate that 7.2 no longer had an email section so I downloaded the latest Thunderbird. I then found that 7.2 has an email section (dumb me!) -- BUT -- where as I can get Thunderbird to connect and get the ATT.YAHOO server located emails, I would like to forget that added Tbird pgm and just use 7.2. HOWEVER -- N7.2 keeps giving me the message "mail server does not support secure connection." I have all the SSL buttons set but nothing works. Can you guide me to fixing this? I think I might have locked myself out during the original 7.2 installation and am worried if I need to wholly re-load 7.2. Thanks. Sorry for bothering you outside the usual BB sign-up. James

 

I -Am- posting this request for assistance -on the BBS. can anyone assist me? thank you.

 

Thank you Pete. Patience it is, then.

 

James,
you have to have some patience, as you, originally, posted in the evening, near midnight. Holiday or not people may not get to answer questions, especially if they are in a narrow area. I mean that one has to be a subscriber to the same ISP as you to verify what is being asked. I don't subscribe to att.yahoo, so my guess is as good as Google search.
I found this link which gives all the necessary info. You should be able to set up your account as a new account using the listed settings. If you can set up your account in Thunderbird, you should be able to do it in NS7.2. However, it may be possible that, although the settings are the same, that att.yahoo may be set up to sniff out undesired program. This is not so unusual. AOL Music will reject the much more updated Seamonkey,...just because it can.
Try what it says in my link. And, see if the port numbers can take care of things, rather than just selecting SSL. I have not had NS7.2 installed for, at least, two years, so I would not be able to verify what I am saying.

 

Thanks Westside. The link had related info and most the same. Nothing to immediately fix where I am at already. I appreciate your time and thoughts. Would you recommend dumping NS 7.2 and going to 8 or 9, which are available, or would you estimate that att.yahoo is so microsoft committed that any NS is 'pgm non grata'? [in the meantime .. I continue patiencing it ]

 

Welcome to the Forum, Coalminer!

James,

I would suggest dumping Netscape 7.2, and continuing with Thunderbird. Netscape is a thing of the past, and as far as Netscape Navigator 9, it too is now defunct. If your Yahoo Mail works in TB, then why not continue with it?

Netscape will have no more updates, or security fixes, but Thunderbird will continue to be updated...

 

Thanks Ramona,

I will take your advice about keeping Thunderbird. I need to import the NS address book but am unclear what option to use successfully since extension NAD is not listed as an option - only Eudora, Outlook, OE and 4 text files (not NAD). your guidance?

 

James,

You must export the Netscape Address Book as an LDIF file, name, and save to your HDD.

Next: open Thunderbird:
Click: Tools | Import
Select: Address Book
Select: Text file (LDIF, .tab,.csv, .txt)

Locate the folder where you saved the Netscape LDIF file, and highlight the LDIF file. Click OK, and Thunderbird will do the rest. The LDIF Address Book will appear in the left panel of the Address Book Window.

Let us know if you have further questions.

 

Did as you said. import failed.

 

James,

When you imported, you may not have noticed that the address book came in as a totally new address book and the addressees did not go into the normal "Personal Address Book "

That was my goof when I first tried the Export/Import trick.

With that said, I do my High School Web Site and have what we call the "Dunce's Corner" and I also now have it on my personal web site so I threw together a web page that should help you get the address book imported.

Take a look at:.... http://www.raysmyth.net/dunce/11-epip/00-epip.html and see if it clears things up for you.

Ramona, gave you good advice to move away from Netscape. I don't use it anymore but, it so happens 7.02 is still on my computer and that allowed me to use it to capture the netscape screens I used on the web page.

Good Luck, Ray

 

Ray,

Yes, 'dunce's' corner is right .. I am a member now .. I missed Ramona's word 'export' and simply made a duplicate file with changed extension and tried to transfer -that -.

"exporting' properly first made the difference - I did a test. With the observed caution that whatever name it comes in as .. cannot be changed.

Thank you! the screen images helped me spot my error.
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I will be keeping NS7.2 because for some reason it prints pages in a different format than OE; NS7.2 has been better for me in some retrieval applications. It also runs cleaner and faster than OE. I use both but alternate as needed.

I am real - unknowledgable - at this point about NS descedents .. it there a Mozilla browser that survives and might be more appropriate?

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Otherwise..

I'm wondering if you might be able to help me reason through the original problems of not being able to set up 7.2 to download from att.yahoo .

I get: "mail server does not support secure authentication" message.

Thank you Ray {Ramona, et al!)

 

Firefox is Thunderbird's companion. Both programs are standalones, and they are supposed to match Outlook Express ( or Windows Live) for mail, and Internet Explorer, as browser.
Many people who are dedicated to Netscape7.2 are more comfortable with Seamonkey . Seamonkey is built like Netscape7.2, and one can install it, and find that all the Netscape7.2 settings will be incorporated, without any importing. Seamonkey will, just, pick up the Netscape settings. As a word of caution do not use Netscape7.2 after installing Seamonkey. Since both programs use the same profile, the results of using both can be disastrous. The profile gets confused with two masters.
As for your question about Netscape not able to support authentication, I don't know since I don't have either NS7.2, nor have an ISP which demands authentication. I thought that if you start by setting the port numbers, first, the program would find its way, with all the correct settings.

 

I am not sure what you mean by the above comment. BUT, -- An imported Addresss Book can be renamed by highlighting it and clicking on "Edit" and "Properties ". Also can be deleted using normal methods.

Being an old Netscape guy myself - I found my comfort zone in using the Mozilla browser "Seamonkey" which is available at: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

Seamonkey is a suite arrangement identical to Netscape with the Composer and E-Mail built in same as Netscape. Most of the setup screens are identical to Netscape.

Well, I'm not sure why this is occurring. The image shown below is Seamonkey's server set up screen But, Thunderbird's setup screen is practical the same.

Look at the image shown here:... http://www.raysmyth.net/secure.jpg and look where it says "Use Secure Connection" and see which button you have checked.

BELL SOUTH in my Titusville, Florida area requires the "NEVER" button. ATT.YAHOO in the Abilene, Texas area requires the "SSL" button checked.

When all else fails try all the buttons - That don't work we will try again.

I see Westside responded while I was writing this. I can tell you that Netscape 7.02 has a Secure Setting but, the server setup screen is slightly different from the one shown in the above image.

I also see Westside told you about Seamonkey. Do what you like but, the sooner you get rid of Netscape the sooner your day will brghten.

Here's the point --- with Netscape your standing still --- with Firefox/Thunderbird or Seamonkey your moving forward.

This doesn't mean you have to delete or remove Netscape. I keep my 7.02 on the computer mainly to trouble shoot and help people same as I hope we did for you.

Good Luck, Ray

 

James,

Either an incorrect setting, or possibly your AntiVirus is blocking Mail. Try disabling the email protection in your AntiVirus and see if the problem persists.

When you try to set up Netscape 7.2 for the Yahoo Mail Account, exactly what have you entered these settings in:
Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings | Server Settings:

Server Name:
Port:

What is enabled for:

Use secure connection (SSL)
Use secure authentication

What are your SMTP settings? Are you using Port 465?

 

Thank you, all , for the recommendations. I haven't made any adjustments or conversions yet, BUT, have discovered that my 16 yo daughter several months ago already downloaded Firefox 2.0.0.14. Soooo, I will go ahead now and convert all my email folders from NS7.2 to Thunderbird (which -will- successfully bring in the yahoo mail). Seamonkey sounds fascinating (and I do like the 7.2 graphics/formats better) but will hold off until some future point; and deal with recombining the separate features back into the whole-package Seamonkey when the time comes. Will hold on to 7.2, as long as there is no conflict. (I have a partitioned drive area where I'm even holding on to 4.78 ... did I mention I still have an 8-track player somewhere in my garage boxes )

My daughter gravitated to Firefox "because its faster" than IE, she said. God bless her, she and her friends know the value of time-saving in cyberspace.

Again, I so appreciate the help you've been so generous and kind and patient to provide.

All best and good wishes ... James