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Microsoft are trying to get us (well, me at least) to set Edge as the default browser.

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  1. 2021/02/12
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    With the most recent (last tuesday) update to Windows 10, Microsoft are trying to get us (well, me at least) to set Edge as the default browser. I noticed the new "entry" at the top of Windows Settings.

    Like you, Vicki, I'm happy with Firefox and will not do as "I'm told". Maybe there has been other ways for Microsoft, trying to force that change onto systems that I have circumvented but you have clicked the wrong button?
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    What are you clicking on that brings up MS Edge versus FF?
     

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    It doesn't bring up MS Edge versus FF specifically, it brings up MS Edge versus any browser that you may prefer.

    I have attached two screenshots:

    "Windows Settings" shows where I find it and "Use recommended browser settings from Microsoft" is what pops up when I click the first one.

    It urges you to set the most recent MS Edge browser as your default, and stick it to your desktop and to the activity field. "It's the best browser for Windows 10, blah-blah".

    I wouldn't dream of clicking the second one, not even "more information", since I have no idea what would happen - straight to hell or an option to deny with a way back to stay with the current browser, in my case FF.

    Maybe it is not in all localisations but at least in the Swedish one.
     

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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    Again - I am wanting to know what is being clicked on that brings up MS Edge.

    Example - is there a shortcut to a web site on the desktop that is being clicked?
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Well, maybe my English isn't good enough but I'll try one last time.

    As I understand it, whichever browser other than Edge that is set as the default will bring up the link "Use recommended browser settings from Microsoft" in "Windows Settings" to coerse the user to change to Edge.

    Clicking the link "Use recommended browser settings from Microsoft" brings up a window and below I provide a translation (to the best of my ability) of the contents of the window that pops up:

    I have not yet clicked the link for "More information" because I don't know what will happen, will I paint myself into a corner?

    I assume that clicking the button to "Confirm" will set Edge as my default browser but will I be able to reset Firefox as the default, as it has been for several years?

    Too many questionmarks to click anything but "Cancel"!
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    Christer - your English is fine.... is there anyway we get can LESS of it?

    Or are you and Vicki (the original poster - remember her) the same person?
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I'm not sure what you mean without a smiley as an indicator? I have actually worried about my sidenote developing into a thread hijack but it's you who ask the questions ... ;) ... I try to answer them! This far, Vicki has made no comments.

    Again, I'm not sure what you mean? Why wouldn't I remember Vicki and I worry about you and me having driven her away from her thread. Of course I'm not the same member as Vicki ... :p ... or am I missing the pun?

    I'm considering removing my "contribution" to this thread, including all posts resulting from it.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I did to reset focus in the original thread!
     
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    Arie

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    So you get some sort of notice when you are in Windows Settings? Easy to just ignore no?

    I'm not sure, I will most likely stay on 1909 till EOL, and don't get any of this cr@p. My default is Brave, but I use nearly all: Edge, Chrome, FireFox, Brave and IE :D

    They all are used for different things, and IE only for accessing my router's/switches...
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Yes, it's easy to ignore but as can be seen in the screenshot (Windows Settings.jpg), it's right up there in my face and it annoys me. The strange thing is that it's not there on the LapTop, only on the DeskTop.

    On the DeskTop, KB4601319 is listed in "Windows Settings > Update & Security > View Update History" as well as in "Control Panel > Programs and Features > Uninstall or change a program".

    On the LapTop, I wondered when KB4601319 would get installed since it was not listed in "Windows Settings > Update & Security > View Update History" but when I checked "Control Panel > Programs and Features > Uninstall or change a program", KB4601319 is listed there.

    I have found no explanation to the difference.

    2004 was forcefully installed without my consent on both my computers. I'm actually considering upgrading to 20H2 but will probably sit on my hands until 21H1 (if that will be the name) is released.

    Thanks for your interest ... :) ... !
     
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    Arie

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    Well, as I've posted b4, I was 'force fed' 20H2, but that broke some things for me, so I forced 1909 back on and forbid any upgrade till EOL :D

    I know why I have PRO and not Home...

    For the rest, I have no idea, nor done any research, but I can't imagine people haven't found what to do to get rid of the warning/notice...
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I don't know but speculate that different language versions differ from each other. I mean, what I'm complaining about in this thread may be occurring in the Swedish version but not in the English version which, I assume, is the most common one on this board. (How many Swedes are around?)

    There's also a difference between the Swedish versions of PRO (where the new "entry" at the top of Windows Settings occur) and HOME (where it doesn't).

    There are so many parameters and if the language versions of the software differ as much as the language versions of KB-articles, then it feeds a lot of misunderstanding. Comparing the original KB-article in English with the autotranslated version in Swedish can be really entertaining!
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I checked those settings and that page doesn't look the same in my Swedish PRO version, compared to the one in your link. See the attached screenshot.

    As you can see (in my screenshot), the "master switch" is set to Off (Av in Swedish) which greys out the following three options. Turning the "master switch" Off, greying those out, corresponds to turning the upper three options Off in your link, I guess.

    The switch set to Off in your link has no corresponding switch (that I can find) in the Swedish version.

    The one they suggest turning off corresponds to the bottom one of the three boxes which are not greyed out in my screenshot. I had all checked to get notifications after updates and such (I'm not opposed to everything and I want to know) but now, I've turned them all off.

    I restarted the computer but the notification is still there, the notification outlined in red color in my attachment "Windows Settings" in post #3.

    I read the text in your link and I don't think we are barking up the same tree. I believe my issue is different and it was initiated by KB4601319 getting installed.

    I also believe that it may be confusing to have a discussion based on two different language versions of the operating system! Don't you agree?
     

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    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Christer, Why not switch ON your Notifications button which will give you control over ALL the switches below it.
    The first 2, show notifications on the LOCK SCREEN which is where you want to REMOVE them??
    I would suggest you switch them all off - then switch off the Notification button again - REBOOT and see what happens/shows.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    No, it has nothing to do with the lock screen! Please, check my screen shots in post #3. They show where the "nagging" occurs and it is not on the lock screen.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Yes, now we're on the right track. I had no idea what to search for in English but now I do, thanks!

    I went google on Disable Settings Header Banner in Windows 10 and there are several hits indicating that I'm not the only one objecting to this. There are also indications of other ways to use "third party tricks" to get rid of it, some of them reported to work, others not to work. Generally, I don't apply "third party tricks" but this time I probably will. If something would go wrong ... :cool: ... I have a Terabyte Image to restore.

    I'll look deeper into this and thanks again ... :) ... !
     
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    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Sorry it took a couple of go's as some of the terminology can be confusing for old guys like me. o_O:oops:
    Let's know how you get on.;)
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Well, neither am I a "spring chicken" :D but I'll try to remember to keep you posted on the progress of any drastic actions :cool: !
     

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