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  1. 2003/01/16
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    What´s the typical size of a Windows XP Home SP1 installation?

    What´s the typical size of a Windows XP Pro SP1 installation?



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    I'll give an estimate since no one else has jumped in.

    1.5 gigs for home and 2.5 gigs for Pro, if Pro is installed from a slipstreamed SP1 CD. Better say over 3 gigs if SP1 is installed after Pro is installed.
     
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    Abraxas, thanks for Your input!

    Wow, that was unexpected!

    Microsoft quotes the disk requirement as 1.5 GB give or take a few 100 MB for Home as well as for Pro and I was wondering how much they were exaggerating!

    My Windows-folder in WinME is 1.65 GB, of which 1.15 GB is the TIF-folder. This makes the OS itself 0.5 GB. I don´t know but I think that includes bits of Office 2000 and other applications as well.

    Again, thanks for Your input but, if possible, I´d like a second opinion.



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    NFS!??

    1.15 GB is the TIF-folder?
     
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    Hmmm... "NFS!?? " indeed. :D Christer You may have mis-typed that somewhat.

    But anyway, my Windows Xp Home is occupying a Windows folder that is 2.03 Gigs. in size. Windows tends to get bloated by many programs so it's a good idea to allow it some room. If I had a choice, I would put it on a partition that was at least 3 Gigs and preferrably 4 Gigs and keep my data, programs, paging file, and TIF's on some other partition.

    Just me though, you may have other goals.

    :)
    ps. You may need to check the setting for your TIF folder and set it around 5 megs if you have a dial-up ISP and 1 meg with cable/DSL. Clear the old files after changing the setting.
     
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    The space needed will depend a great deal on how much you assign for System Restore, TIF, and pagefile. Whether you save memory dumps and use hibernation also has a large effect.

    Just FYI--PC Pitstop recommends 80 megs for TIF. Too much actually makes web pages load more slowly. And, they load more slowly if the cache is too small and they need to be redownloaded.

    80 megs is an arbitrary amount, for sure, and I have no idea how they arrived at that number, but it is within the realm of reason. It is what I use for lack of a better or more convincing suggestion.

    PS. To keep the TIF space at efficient use, it is a good idea to use an app like CacheSentry that automatically adjusts the size to its true value, updates index.dat, and deletes stray files:

    http://www.mindspring.com/~dpoch/enigmatic/cachesentry.html
     
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    Kevin,
    I don´t know what You mean by NFS!?
    Yes, My TIF-folder is 1.15GB and I know that I´ve let it grow out of proportion. I´m so fed up with WinME ...... I´m waiting for the right time to install WinXP.

    Zephyr,
    I didn´t type NFS, it was Kevin.
    Our flying club has an older PC which is for the convenience of the members to get weather data and such from the internet. It´s a PII/333 and a 4GB HDD. RAM will be upgraded from 64MB to 128MB. Performance is not an issue for this PC.
    Currently it runs Win98 but people can´t leave the settings alone so, we want an OS with an 'administrator account' and a 'members account'.

    Abraxas,
    I intend to disable the System Restore and put my faith in Norton Ghost and Hibernation will also be disabled.
    Of the 4GB HDD I will probably make C:=3GB for the OS and D:=1GB for the PageFile set to a minimum of some 250MB, the TIF-folder maximized to 100MB and the Documents-folder which really should be empty.
    I´ve got an old 1.25GB HDD which I´ll put in for the Ghost Image.

    Thanks all, for Your input. I learn every day on this BBS and some day soon I can change my Experience from I´m trying! to I´m really trying!.



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    Your club could always go to Ebay and spring for a 6 gig drive for $30 or so. It would make life a lot simpler.

    MS will recommend 192 for the min pagefile. You may want to go 3.5/0.5 if you have no memory-intensive apps. And shut off any unneeded services with only 128 of memory.

    I think the "NFS" was a common expression of surprize at the size of your TIF.

    Good luck. We're here ;) .
     
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    I´ve actually bought a few PDAs at eBay and I had to use an american friend to act as a 'middle woman' since usually the sellers only ship domestic.
    There are also a few arrogant *rsh*l*s who only accept credit cards issued by an american bank ...... as if they were any better ......

    Anyway, thanks for the tip!
     
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    NFS - Gotta be Network File System. Doesn't it? :D

    Or possibly Not for Sure.

    I think I've finally been let down by my trusty http://www.acronymfinder.com/ site.

    BTW - if you want to add the acronym finder to your IE right-click menu, they offer an automatic reg entry that will put it there. Useful little thing at times.
     
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    I have heard that the ability to right-click and "View Source" is lost if the TIF cache size is set too high.

    I run mine at 1 (one) Meg only (have cable modem) and my Internet speed is very good. I really don't want any old data since most sites that I visit are dynamic, such as this BBS. I have set my browser to check for newer version on "Every Visit To The Page." I found that not doing that often required me to "Manually Refresh" the page and I seemed to be losing more time that way than I could possibly gain.

    If the cache was 1 Gig. I would be worried that I was seeing last weeks information! NFS! I would think it would take the drive longer to search that 1 Gig mess than it would to download a fresh copy.

    When I had a dial-up connection I always ran my TIF cache at 8 Megs and found that to be more than ample for my browsing style. To each his own I suppose.

    Cheers. :)
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    :eek: I think that I´ve got an idea of what NFS stands for! :eek:

    I start to believe that Windows default settings, in some respects such as TIF-folder size and diskspace used for System Restore, aren´t quite the optimum.

    Some people say that the TIF-folder should be limited to some 100MB, other people say 1MB but I see clearly that my 1+GB is ridiculous. However, don´t blame me for not knowing, it´s Windows default settings that I´ve left unaltered.



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    That is certainly true. The first things I do after an installation are to set the SR and TIF sizes. They can grow all out of proportion to reason.

    That is really what "tweaking" is all about. The default settings, supposedly, are the best for the greatest number of machines, an average. Your particular machine will always benefit from a little fine-tuning. Really. NFS! ;)
     
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    I´ve delayed may installation of WinXP for a while now and I´ll wait a while longer to pick up a few more tips.

    In the meantime I´ll also learn some more abbreviations and acronyms. I can tell You that the mind of a non english speaking individual gets into high revs from time to time ...... :confused: :eek: :eek:



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    Newt, thanks a ton for that "acronymfinder.com" that is really great for a beginner like me.
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    paul43 - ain't so bad for an old fart like me either. That's why I keep the link handy.
     
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    qsl

    73
     
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    Oh Lordy. I don't think I've seen (or heard) qsl since I was sitting on the circuits in McMurdo in DF60 (Deep Freeze 1960) in the Antarctic swapping weather messages with the Russians. That was 43 years ago. Now that did bring back some memories. That was nice. I sorta enjoyed that. Thank ya'll.

    -30-
     
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    What a co-inkydink, I spent a winter north of Yukon Flats sitting night guard on the net. 1959 that was...beautiful country, the ground was all white and the sky was totally techni-colored, totally awesome! Operation Cold Bay they called it and believe you me, the title fit, 'twas -58° F and we slept in quanset huts and sometimes tents..

    Cheers. 73 30
     
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    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Oh Lord, what have I started? :rolleyes:
    Maybe we should take this to the hardware section, old memories! :D



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