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Install 2 copies of XP......

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Alpha_and_Omega, 2005/04/13.

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  1. 2005/04/13
    Alpha_and_Omega

    Alpha_and_Omega Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Is it possible to install 2 copies of XP onto one hard drive.....

    What I'd like to do is partition a 120gig into 2 60 gig drives (c & d) and install XP onto both. Is this possible??

    And is there anything I would need to do to get the second installation to go on....

    I tried it once but all XP wanted to do was repair etc... itself....
     
  2. 2005/04/14
    TonyT

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    why do you wish to do this?
     

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    PeteC

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    It may well be possible, but do you have TWO legit copies of XP? Each will need to be activated.
     
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    surferdude2

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    Yes, you can do that. I have done it before without incident. Reactivation was not required. The existing system will be detected and dual boot will be automatically set up. I never had any issues with it other than being forgetful of which OS I had done what to. :) You'll quickly tire of the maintenance demands of two systems.

    That said, check this link for a nice outline of the process.

    Parallel Install XP
     
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    charlesvar

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    I do it as well, mine are on 2 HD's.

    Don't mind the upkeep, the benefits out weigh the effort. Aside from having a "backup ", running different security software is a plus and "auditioning" software is a definate plus.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    Alpha_and_Omega

    Alpha_and_Omega Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    PeteC,
    Yes I do have 2 legit copies of XP and if needed re-activation is no problem.

    surferdude2,
    Thanks for the link for the parallel installation, it is a great help.

    charlesvar,
    I will not mind the upkeep of eithier setup because as you say I believe it has its advantages. The main reason I want to do this is because I want to be able to "test" software to see if it is useful, damaging etc.... before I put it into my working copy of XP.

    Again, thanks alot guys...... its appreciated....
     
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    NetDoc

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    Another way to do this is with virtual machine software such as Virtual PC or VMWare. You can even netwrok between the real and virtual machines and can share drives. Good for messing around with other OSs as well.

    DRD
     
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    Johanna

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    Great link, SD2, but they confused me. Everything they said applied to XP Home but all the screenshots were XP Pro (pre SP2). Anyway, good info. I've been kicking around the idea of a parallel install during the next reinstall, which I judge to be less than a month away. It would be fun to have an area just to "play" in. I've been reading up on the drive imaging programs because the work I've been doing is getting too complicated for my old very simple back up routines. Two side by side XPs would be less risk for my working XP, right?

    Johanna
     
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    surferdude2

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    Johanna, I think a parallel install can be useful in some circumstances. It didn't have the value for me that I thought but don't let that stop you.

    I have two links for it, one for Home, the other for Pro. As you have noticed, some of the screenshots are for the wrong version but I think that's not relevant since the install directions are specific.

    Take your choice:

    XP Home Parallel Install

    XP Pro Parallel Install

    I am absolutely sure that you will enjoy the safety of periodic disk imaging. I wouldn't operate without it. I use Acronis but Ghost is fine too. I just prefer Acronis since the product (True Image) has stayed in the same hands for much longer than Ghost. It's probably a toss up so go with what you prefer after reading carefully.

    All the best.
     
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    noahdfear

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    Alpha_and_Omega,

    Painless process......start setup. When you get to 'which partition', select D. If you're storing data there, leave the file system intact. Keeping in mind I allow alot of 'junk' onto my system, so that I know better how to remove it (if I can manage to get infected), a short time back I installed 98, 2000, 2000 server, 2 XP Homes and 2 XP Pros on one drive, all separate partitions. A third XP Pro resides on a second drive. The 2 removable trays will allow me to add two more drives, with whatever number of OS's on them, to the boot menu.

    Alternatively, and this is my recommendation, there is imaging software. I recommend this alternative because no two OS's are the same, even if they should be. What may work well on OS #2 may not work at all when you decide to put it on #1. An image however, allows you to put the program on #1, and either keep it because it works well for you, or replace a prior-to-installation image because it didn't, and cruise on like it never happened. Another post-good installation image, and you can continue trying out more software, without the worry of rolling back to before the install and having to re-install it again.

    Now, the real reason I'm posting to this thread.........parallel installation.......re-installing to a new folder. Prior to my multi-boot situation, I went through a couple of Windows re-installations, over-top to the same folder, and always wound up with a second set of user profile folders. eg; Documents and Settings\Dave and Documents and Settings\Dave.Athlon. The same applied to ALL folders within the Documents and Settings directory. I was left unable to boot to my original profile, and all the tweaks I was accustomed to, and was faced with starting over resetting things the way I like them. Bootup was to the Dave.Athlon profile. All of my Dave documents were accessible, but only through the Docs and Settings\Dave filepath.
    (just have to mention that through some registry editing I was able to get back to my original profile and all was fine again :D )
    About a month ago, I walked into the bosses office and was informed that he suddenly couldn't boot. I don't remember what the error was, but it meant a re-install. Recalling what I had been through, I decided to re-install to a new folder.......C:\Windows1, expecting to bootup to a new profile and re-installing all programs from scratch. To my drop-jawed amazement, his 'tweaked' desktop loaded upon reboot. There was no C:\Windows1 folder, there was no second profile scheme, all was as if nothing ever happened. All installed programs worked as well. I'm still scratchin my head, as he surfs happily along a month later. Someone, please, explain this to me! :confused: :confused:

    Pete, maybe I should actually READ the EULA :rolleyes: , but I was under the impression that multiple installations on separate machines, was in violation. ???

    Johanna, 'bout time you try multi-booting, just to know it. :p :D

    BTW, just for clarification, I recently scrubbed my above multi-boot setup and now have only 98, XP Pro and XP Pro on a second drive. Got to be to many options. :rolleyes:
     
  12. 2005/04/17
    PeteC

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    Dave
    That is correct, but also, according to the EULA, only one copy on one machine .....

    C:\WINDOWS\system32\eula.txt

    "Microsoft Windows XP Professional

    END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT

    IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This End-User
    License Agreement ( "EULA ") is a legal agreement between you
    (either an individual or a single entity) and Microsoft
    Corporation for the Microsoft software product identified above,
    which includes computer software and may include associated
    media, printed materials, "online" or electronic documentation,
    and Internet-based services ( "Product "). An amendment or
    addendum to this EULA may accompany the Product. YOU AGREE TO BE
    BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS EULA BY
    INSTALLING, COPYING, OR OTHERWISE USING THE
    PRODUCT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE, DO NOT INSTALL
    OR USE THE PRODUCT; YOU MAY RETURN IT TO YOUR
    PLACE OF PURCHASE FOR A FULL REFUND.

    1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following rights
    provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of
    this EULA:

    * Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
    display and run one copy of the Product on a single
    computer
    , such as a workstation, terminal or other device
    ( "Workstation Computer "). The Product may not be used
    by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any
    single Workstation Computer. You may permit a maximum
    of ten (10) computers or other electronic devices (each
    a "Device ") to connect to the Workstation Computer to
    utilize the services of the Product solely for File and
    Print services, Internet Information Services, and remote
    access (including connection sharing and telephony
    services). The ten connection maximum includes any
    indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other
    software or hardware which pools or aggregates
    connections. Except as otherwise permitted by the
    NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop
    features described below, you may not use the Product
    to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
    executable software residing on the Workstation Computer,
    nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display,
    or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless
    the Device has a separate license for the Product. "

    I'm no lawyer, killjoy or spoilsport, but it seems fairly clear?
     
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    PeteC

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    Not exactly - what is described there is a salvage operation when the original copy is not functioning correctly, i.e. is not usable or accessible.....
    I have no intention of taking the role of soapbox layer on this - that's my 2 cents worth :D
     
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    sorry to interrupt but I have a question

    I have already completed this parallel installation on a machine and I can boot to the new install perfectly. But when I try to boot the old installation, it stops at the screen where the logon names should come up and nothing happens. The screen just sits there and there is no processing going on. I think it has something to do with the usernames but I am not sure how to fix this, it would be really great if I could boot to this old install because I rescued it from a bad hard drive. I'm sorry to jump into this post with this question, but it is the only place I can find on here where this topic is being addressed. Thanks.
     
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    PeteC

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    coach_32 - Welcome to the Board :)

    Your best bet, IMO, is to Repair the old installation.
     
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    Alpha_and_Omega

    Alpha_and_Omega Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I now have XP pro installed twice on 1 computer. It is working perfectly and I have never had a problem as of yet.

    When I called, by voice, MicroSoft to activate XP Pro and was asked if this version was on any other pc's I told them no, it was only installed on 1 machine, which is true. I did however explain to the person on the phone that it was a SECOND installation of XP Pro. I told him there were 2 complete installs on the same computer and asked if there were any problems with that fact. I was told "no ", there is no problem at all. He went on to say I could install it as many times as I wanted aslong as it is on the same machine and "NOT" any others. I also, in case he misunderstood me, said "so it is okay to install windows from 1 install cd on the same computer as many times as I wanted as long as I don't put it on any other computer ". His answer, without hesitating was "YES ".

    Anyways again thanks everyone for the help I needed in order to do this setup, it was and still is greatly appreciated......
     
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    Will that delete

    But will that delete any of my settings and files in the old installation.
     
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    PeteC

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    From the link I posted ....
    As always - at your own risk :)
     
  20. 2005/06/08
    Alpha_and_Omega

    Alpha_and_Omega Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    When I installed XP a second time it touched nothing in my other already installed copy. But i did have re-install mainboard drivers etc for my second installation.


    BTW: I installed my 2nd XP installation to my D: partition NOT C:.... I don't know what would happen if I had put it on C: aswell. For that reason I'd put on a separate drive (partiton) and you should have no problems, but then again, as was suggested you should make a backup just incase....
     
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    Installing a second copy to the same partition is only recommended for repair purposes or to recover data prior to a reinstall. If used beyond those purposes, there is the possibility of cross corruption of the Program Files Folder as well as any software folders installed outside of the Program Files Folder. This occurs when the Registry of one system does not track the changes made to the Program Files Folder by the other OS installation, such as installing/uninstalling or upgrading programs.

    Installing to a separate partition is fine for any purpose and no cross corruption will occur.

    I'm glad to hear that MS has voiced their approval even though it may seem to be a possible violation of the EULA as Pete points out.
     
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