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Imported Address book

Discussion in 'Firefox, Thunderbird & SeaMonkey' started by Christer, 2005/02/16.

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  1. 2005/02/16
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hello all!

    I imported my Address book from Outlook Express, via Microsoft Outlook to Thunderbird. (It wasn't possible to import without the step via Microsoft Outlook, a flaw in Outlook Express.) It ended up as "Contacts ".

    When I reply to a mail with a quote marked by a blue line, TB notifies me that the recipient is identified to not being able to receive HTML mail and gives me three options;
    - to send as both plain text and HTML,
    - to send as plain text only,
    - to send as HTML only.

    The mail from the sender (now recipient) is HTML.

    If I remove the quote, it sends the mail without a problem but it is still HTML ...... :confused: ...... right?

    The same reply, including the quote, can be sent from Outlook Express without a glitch.

    Is this due to a setting somewhere?

    Thanks for Your time,
    Christer

    I forgot to mention that it doesn't happen all the time. I haven't used TB for long but a few mails go without a glitch but others have extended claws.
     
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    Bmoore1129

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    Tools>options>composition>send options. Drop down and select send as HTML anyway.

    If you get a note from an individual about using plain text, you can change to whatever they desire in the their address book entry.
     

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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Thanks Bill!

    I will probably get notified by the recipients if they can't receive my replies when formated HTML.

    Christer
     
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    Ramona

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    Christer,

    Try sending an HTML email to yourself to see if the HTML message is received correctly.

    Ramona
     
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    Christer

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    Hi Ramona!

    When I try to send a mail to myself, that dialog box pops up and when I tell it to send in HTML anyway, I receive it OK.

    In Tools > Options > Composition > Send options > drop-down menu > I have now set it to send both as plain text and in HTML. With that setting, TB doesn't ask anymore and I receive the mail in HTML and if a recipient really isn't able to receive in HTML, he/she should receive it as plain text. (I wondered if I should receive two mails but TB is apparently smarter than that.)

    Christer
     
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    Ramona

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    Christer,

    I use the HTML and Plain Text setting also. Then you aren't constantly bombarded with the dialog windows. Your recipients will let you know if they prefer plain text. Supposedly bad form to send HTML mail... I do it with certain friends, just to add silly graphics now and then, other than the default smileys.

    Yes indeed, it is a very clever little browser... ;)

    Let us know when you have more questions

    Ramona
     
  8. 2005/02/17
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Ramona,

    Well, in this particular case, it seems pretty daft ...... :rolleyes: ...... I never had this problem in Outlook Express!

    I'll be back ...... :p ...... !

    Christer
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I'm still in experimental mode and this is what I did before:

    I'm still running Outlook Express in parallel and edited the Address book. To make it simple, I tried importing to TB again and took the route via Microsoft Outlook. First, I deleted the "Contacts" in TB.

    This time, the import didn't work. A popup window with the message "TB has performed an illegal operation and has to be shut down" (or words to that effect) appeared. I tried several times to no avail and finally tested a direct import from Outlook Express ...... :eek: ...... and it worked. It ended up as "Outlook Express - Address book ".

    It kind of makes me wonder where the flaw is ...... :confused: ...... !

    Christer
     
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    Christer

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    It seems like the problem is the file in Outlook that holds all the account information, Outlook.pst.

    When Outlook gets corrupted, deleting that file is a procedure that probably will cure the problem. When Outlook is restarted, Outlook.pst will be recreated and the problem is history (apart from retrieveing Contacts and Mail from the old file but it can be done).

    I deleted that file to get rid of the Contacts and after importing the edited Address book from OE, TB couldn't import the Contacts from Outlook.

    This was on my ordinary computer but on the experimental computer, the original Outlook.pst was still there. TB imported just fine but not after moving Outlook.pst and Outlook recreating it on restart. Put back the original and it works again.

    I have also come to the conclusion that the failure to import from OE on my first attempt was a statement in confusion. I tried a few exports and imports that day and what didn't work was exporting from OE to anything, neither another program nor a file.

    If I only keep my fat sticky fingers off it ...... :eek: ...... Thunderbird works great ...... :) ...... !

    Christer
     
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    Westside

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    I know nothing about Outlook, but it seems to have header files, i.e. .pst which can become corrupted. Your treatment is the same as the one used for TB, Moz or NS. All of them have corruptible header files, i.e. msf which are rebuilt.
    The program must be closed when the deleting is done.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Outlook must be closed to delete Outlook.pst. If not, it won't let You. I have even restarted the computer but it doesn't matter what I do.

    When clicking the Address book icon (in Outlook), there is a drop-down menu with the option to display either the Outlook Address book or Contacts. Each time Outlook.pst is deleted and rebuilt, an additional Contacts option appears. It seems like Outlook mixes up the paths, resulting in TB trying to import a Contacts list that is no longer there.

    Christer
     
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    Ramona

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    Christer,

    Export the Thunderbird Address Book as an LDIF file
    Open the Address Book
    Click on Tools | Export

    Next:
    Outlook can't import LDIF files, but you can import an LDIF file in Outlook Express, then import address book information from Outlook Express to Outlook.

    Ramona
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Ramona,
    thanks for that but it is "the wrong direction" since I'm going from MS stuff to Mozilla stuff.

    Importing from Outlook, includes the mailing lists as well but importing from Outlook Express doesn't which is a draw back.

    Anyway, this is (hopefully) part of a learning curve. It would have been much quicker to retype my ~200 addresses in TB's Personal Addressbook ...... :rolleyes: ...... !

    Christer
     
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    Ramona

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    Christer,

    Good grief, I must have been having a serious brain lapse! I don't have either Outlook or Outlook Express installed, or I could do some experimenting. I am reading that users are successful going thru OE, but you have said that lacks the mailing lists. I've also read that you must make Outlook your default Mail Program in order for the Import of the Address Book to work.

    Importing Outlook 2000 Address Books into Thunderbird

    If you have spreadsheet software, you might try converting the Outlook Address Book to a CSV file, then to your spreadsheet software to make it useable, and then Import to Thunderbird.

    I'll be on the lookout for more info...

    Ramona
     
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