IE not loading Icons w/o refresh

Hi All: IE6 when browsing the web, pages load ok, but instead of getting the link icons, I'm getting the little box with the red x in the center. If I refresh the page, the icons appear ok.

On bbs, the icons to the left of the thead starter's name exhibit this behavior.

What can I do to fix this?

All replies will be appreciated.

Martin

 

Hi Martin!

I always start with clearing TIF's, cookies (and if necessary later history). Open a command window and type ipconfig /flushdns, enter. If using Sun Java, open it in the control panel to the cache tab and clear.

 

martinr121--Good advice from noahdfear if this is happening all the time on all the images. If only some of the time on some images, it could just be server problems. Nothing you can do about it except Refresh.

 

Jim: yes, happening all the time. Performed Dave's tasks, checked after each, appears it was the Java cache, it is now fixed.

Dave: How did you get to be so smart? How did you know about the Sun Java can cause this. Heck, I had never opened Java in control panel before, never even noticed it was there. Still not even sure what it does. Think I'll poke around in there and see if I can muck it up.

Thanks Dave, ride to the rescue again.

Martin

 

LOL! I didn't know that would help with this. I just threw it in for good measure because it's a cache. Not sure who, but someone on this board suggested clearing it occasionally and I've been doing it regularly ever since, along with all the other caches.

That'd probably be OK. Just don't look in the event viewer

Glad I could help.

 

Darn it all, it is happening again, no icons on web pages. I did the cache clear thing and this time, no help, still no Icons. Any more help out there?

Martin

 

You can check out the MS KB article, Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer to see if any of the conditions described there exist on your computer and any of the fixes there work.

It gets fixed temporarily on my system by emptying IE's cache (along with "all offline content" which I don't use but it thinks I do) but the red x's always start showing up again. I just gave up and right-click on the red x and click on "Show Picture. "

 

It may not be the case for martinr121 but for me it was my screensaver that was messing things up.

All was well untill the SS kicked in. As of yet I have seen no problem since I changed the SS.

I started checking things out when I found that the SS would only clear when I clicked a mouse button. Just moving it would not clear the SS. Also when the SS did clear the screen would go completley Blank & BLACK for a few seconds before the display came back.

Switched to another SS and all seems to be OK. Right now any way.

So from this I am assumming that it is ( or may be ) a Video problem.

BillyBob

 

I have this problem using Avant on my laptop - I know clean all of the above plus my Icon cache folder as it is rebuilt again. I have discovered with Avant it does not give you control over the 'encoding language' even though it is a shell over IE. If you select Western European (Windows) in IE it seems to help keep the red x's away.

I did have the same on my PC with Avant but have found recently it has been fine as I am cleaning my TIF's / Icon Cache / DNS / History as much as I can. I am doing the same with my laptop but somehow the red x and show picture are necessary when using Avant. If only I could keep the encoding as I can with IE I think this would help a great deal.

 

Enabling the cache, according to Java help, improves performance because once an applet is cached it no longer needs to be downloaded when referenced again. Makes sense to me. My thinking here Pete is that at some point in time, an applet can become corrupted, just like an ActiveX control, and inhibit functionality, therefore requiring purging. I'm sure it would slow things down somewhat to have it disabled, though I don't know if it would be noticeably. One thing that may have noticeable effect is the cache size. Like with the Prefetch folder, too much to sort through becomes more time consuming than starting from scratch. I have mine set at 20MB. The other thing that could effect things is compression. None is best, as the applet doesn't have to be decompressed to be used.

Martin, sometimes just alot of traffic, causing slowed access/loading can cause that to happen. Do things display properly if you refresh the page? If so, that's usually a good sign of low bandwidth or poor signal strength or even high noise on the line. Happens sometimes and there's not much you can do about it. What make/model is your modem?(I think I remember you being on cable?) I can dig up an address for you to access those specs. Sometimes just unplugging the modem for a bit will clear things up too. Sometimes typing ipconfig /flushdns in a command window will do wonders also.

 

Dave: Modem: Speedstream 5260 DSL, supplied by ISP, running PPPoE @ 768 down 384 up.

Cleared all caches, flushed dns. Java cache set at default 50mb.

Miz: Followed your link to MSFT, found "view" "encoding" set at "uinicode FT8" reset for western european + auto select per MSFT KB article. Will see what happens next.

Thanks to all

Martin

 

The point about the signal is very interesting and one I had not read about before. Perhaps this is why my laptop suffers more from icons and red x's as it is connected via a cable to my router usually when my PC is off therefore it may be that it does not get the full strength of signal my PC does with the ethernet connection. Something to think about as not matter how much I have cleaned it still happens.

 

Perhaps this is why my laptop suffers more from icons and red x's as it is connected via a cable to my router usually when my PC is off therefore it may be that it does not get the full strength of signal my PC does with the ethernet connection

miniB
Please clear that up a little. You say the Laptop is connected to the Router by cable. Your connections are not clear. If you have a Router I do not believe it should make any difference which machines are on or off.

You say the PC is connected by Ethernet. Isn't it also connected to the Router by cable ?

Unless I am wrong I think you will find that the LapTop is also connected via Ethernet. ( I no nuttin about Laptops. )

I was also leaning toward a signal problem UNTIL I found the other two machines did not have the same problem. Even if all three were online.

BillyBob

 

miniB,

The signal strength/noise I was referring to is more a provider line issue (incoming line). Sometimes poor connections, old lines, etc. can cause the signal coming to and going from your modem to be less than adequate, and it may only be noticeable at various times. But by all means, a less than adequate CAT5 cable between machine and router or dirty contacts on your card could affect data transfer.

 

Hi all, I did not realize the problem was widespread, thought only my machine was doing this.

This morning, log on to bbs forum "internet explorer outlook express" all icons in left hand column load ok except those topics to which I am subscribed. No icons in second colum displayed, similies, just blank square with a dot in the middle. On refresh, all appeared.

Did forum jump to Windows XP, first 6 icons displayed, none after that, no similies. Did a refresh, all icons except those for topic which had been moved were displayed. 2nd refresh, they appeared.

Checked view menu, encoding, find it reset itself to Unicode (UTF 8) whatever that is. Auto is still ticked.

Martin

 

Martin,

Haven't dug up an addy for you yet but go here and take a tweak test and speed test. I wouldn't bother with the line quality test since you usually have to reconfigure routers and firewalls to allow it. Won't hurt you to try if you want.

 

Dave, test results:

Speed: 611 up, 312 down.

Tweak test:

1. Your Tweakable Settings:
Receive Window (RWIN): 65340
Window Scaling: off
Path MTU Discovery: ON
RFC1323 Window Scaling: OFF
RFC1323 Time Stamping: OFF
Selective Acks: ON
MSS requested: 1452
TTL: unknown
TTL remaining: 114

2. Test 146000 byte download
Actual data bytes sent: 146000
Actual data packets: 101
Max packet sent (MTU): 1492
Max packet recd (MTU): 1492
Retransmitted data packets: 0
sacks you sent: 0
pushed data pkts: 5
data transmit time: 1.252 secs
our max idletime: 109.7 ms
transfer rate: 60364 bytes/sec
transfer rate: 482 kbits/sec
This is not a speed test!
transfer efficiency: 100%


3. ICMP (ping) check
Target unpingable




Notes and recommendations:
Check FAQ on MTU for XP (FAQ #2252)
Choose RWIN between 7260 and 20328 (FAQ #586)
download/use DRTCP .. (FAQ #578)
Read the tweak FAQ

Notes and recommendations:
Good data stream (no/few rexmits)

Notes and recommendations:
Become pingable
if you need basic packet loss tests done
Check tweak FAQ




Still stuck? copy/paste this url:
http://ttester.broadbandreports.com...service=dsl&speed=768&os=winXP&via=winXPpppoe
if you are seeking forum advice. DO NOT COPY PASTE THE PAGE, JUST THE URL ABOVE.
(and please don't forget to explain what you've got, cable, DSL, speed it should be etc)


Recommendation key:
= something good
= optional recommendation
= possible problem
= problem
= big problem



Martin

 

You can also get some idea of server traffic by opening a coomand window and typing tracert www.windowsbbs.com. Low numbers are best, say 100ms and down. Sample below.


1 * * * Request timed out.
2 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.87.250.65
3 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 12.118.239.137
4 16 ms 13 ms 14 ms tbr1-p012301.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.9]
5 14 ms 23 ms 13 ms ggr2-p310.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.65]
6 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms att-gw.chi.verio.net [192.205.32.194]
7 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms p16-1-0-0.r01.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.77]
8 36 ms 37 ms 37 ms p16-1-1-0.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.85]
9 46 ms 45 ms 44 ms p16-5-0-0.r00.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.5.43]
10 47 ms 44 ms 44 ms ge-2.ev1.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.10.106]
11 44 ms 44 ms 46 ms gphou-66-98-240-123.ev1.net [66.98.240.123]
12 43 ms 47 ms 45 ms windowsbbs.com [67.15.19.177]