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How do you guys like Windows 7 so far?? Any way to do a rollback??

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by CrunchDude, 2009/01/18.

  1. 2009/01/18
    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    I personally like it ok...That's not what I said about Vista's RC2, which, from then on, I used exclusively because it was SUCH an improvement over XP, and the looks didn't hurt either.

    I recently did something I'd never done before. After doing a couple of fresh installs, I decided to do an upgrade from my Vista x64 to 7 x64, and it went great, without any errors. None reported by the Windows upgrade process anyway. I only did it, because they're so closely related, and since "7" really seems to be Vista Service Pack 3, so to speak. Took about 4 hours, and every last app had seemed to work.

    So I have been using it with great joy until I tried to use the Desktop Manager for BlackBerry, and while Windows 7 didn't blue-screen on me or anything, but it seriously messed up my BB. And the culprit WAS Windows 7, as I was able to undo the damage on my GF's computer who has Vista, after repeatedly trying it on 7.

    All is back to normal, but that leads me to believe that the BB Desktop Manager isn't alone.

    In desktop cleaner, there was the option to recover 3.7GB(!) in "old Windows files ", or whatever it said exactly. I have not deleted it, as these are obviously the old Vista files. I have read all the "I want to go back to XP/Vista" threads, and the method described in those doesn't appear to work for me, and no, I don't have a dual-boot configuration either.

    Has anyone rolled back to Vista successfully?? I'll come back to 7 eventually, but I obviously had a false sense of security when this BlackBerry "surprise" happened. I was not happy. Although now I'm even more impressed with the BlackBerry, reviving it after I REALLY messed it up. You live and learn, I know.

    What say you, the Windows Gods?? :)

    Thank you for your great insight!
     
  2. 2009/01/19
    Arie

    Arie Administrator Administrator Staff

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    Well, several "violations" of Beta testing principles here, so I'll touch on a few.

    Most important: Don't install the Beta on your primary home or work computer.

    Next one: Do prepare a recovery disk. A recovery disk restores your computer to its out-of-the-box state. Most computers come with one. If yours didn't, contact your PC maker.

    All those & more can be viewed on the Microsoft site.

    I have no idea on how to rollback to Vista (or if it is even possible). I always create a full disk image of my current OS before I upgrade. I did do the upgrade & rolled back using my image in < 24 hours.

    As for your problems with Mobility Center, I know that MC isn't working in this beta, although that doesn't seem to be acknowledged in the release documentation of this beta.

    But that just validates the following common & published beta wisdom:

    The Windows 7 Beta is a pre-release version of Windows. While we consider this a stable and high-quality beta, it's not the finished product. It could crash your computer or cause you to lose important files or information.

    This is the only information I see on the MS site regarding removal of the beta:

     
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  4. 2009/01/21
    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks Arie...I just re-installed Vista Ultimate x64, and am now running Windows 7 x64 in a dual-boot configuration.

    I'm almost glad this BlackBerry crash happened. And I should have had the foresight not to install a beta OS on the BlackBerry using the first beta of a brand new operating system. I learned my lesson. It also blew me away as to how bullet-proof the BlackBerry OS platform really is. No more Windows Mobile for me in the immediate future. :D

    I am not nearly as impressed, as enthusiastic, or as motivated to do much of anything in the way of adopting anything other than the final release when it drops later this year as far as Windows 7 is concerned. Not that I don't like it, but there was so much more to Vista vs. XP, as there seemingly is to 7 vs. Vista.

    Is anyone here liking it a lot? The UAC has never irked me, as much as it apparently has so many people, so the ability to be able to control its behavior more is of no consequence to me.

    I'd much more love to hear if there are any "under-the-hood" advantages and improvements have been made, such as WiFi on Vista vs. XP, and then again Vista SP1 vs. XP and Vista before SP1. That was one terrific improvement that you can't see, but very much feel when you're in a big house, or just for plain better speeds, period.

    My .02 so far...I wonder how you guys feel about the new Windows OS! ;)
     
  5. 2009/01/22
    Arie

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    I'm not as 'excited' as some others seem to be. Most "experts" say that this is the best OS ever. Those are the same people that blasted Vista & never used it past their first tests.

    Yes, Vista had some problems early on. Everybody seems to have forgotten that Windows XP had some issues too when it was just released.

    Microsoft fixed most Vista issues, and after SP1 Vista was a better OS then XP.

    I like Vista more then Win7 (for now). I hate they removed the sidebar. What use are gadgets on the desktop when you have windows covering them?

    Win7 search also doesn't work properly.

    I'll see what else I can dig up :)
     
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  6. 2009/01/23
    CrunchDude

    CrunchDude Inactive Thread Starter

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    Yea, I hear ya. When re-installing Vista, I also no longer wish to "test" Vista SP2. I couldn't ask for more with my setup.

    As for the haters. Well, Microsoft has always gotten blasted, and often times unfairly so. Allow me to use one of my favorite applications, both on Windows, as well as on my BlackBerry. And that is SlingPlayer, which ran just fine on my Windows 7 installation, just FYI. SlingPlayer 2.0 was released 6 months ago, with breathtaking new features. Stunning really.

    Has Mac OS X got SP2.0 yet? Nope. Not after all this time, and after working with that awesome company, the Mac's are not exactly very high on the list of priorities as to what to develop next.

    Linux? I don't get what people think is so great about Linux. I installed Ubuntu 8.04 a while back, and I also tried Fedora. A complex application such as SlingPlayer has never, does not now, and will never exist on any flavor of Linux. I found Linux otherwise unappealing as well.

    Vista worked for me well enough to use it exclusively since its Release Candidate 2, back in 2006, and I'm glad Windows 7 looks just like Vista, as I've always liked the visual effects of Vista.

    As for XP. Well, XP really only became a great operating system after Service Pack 2. I remember people whining about how they didn't like the UI, and would not give up on their precious 2000 systems. History repeating itself. :rolleyes:

    It happens every time Microsoft develops a new OS. I will have to leave the room when my girlfriend blames *every*...I mean every(!!!) last little problem that she encounters with her $400 laptop (a Compaq cheapo machine running Home Basic lol) on Vista. She is furious, and thinks Bill Gates is out to "get her" or something. Mind you, this laptop came with 512MB of RAM. :rolleyes:

    It took XP quite a bit to get out of the gate. Vista has so many improvements that may not be visible to the eye, but boy, when I tried to get a WiFi signal on the third floor of my parents' house with XP, that was a no-go. While it was hardly a great connection, but Vista clung to the network, and hardly ever "gave in ". This is before my 802.11n network. Then SP1 comes along, and WiFi gets even better. Noticeably so. This is just one example. But I digress...

    In retrospect, I still don't understand as to why Vista got, and keeps getting, SUCH a bad rap, and so much bad PR in seemingly every media outlet in existence. Unfairly so, of course, but that doesn't do Microsoft any good. For the OS to succeed, it has to have mass market appeal.

    And that whole UAC thing. It's there for a reason, and I don't mind clicking a few extra steps. But for those who were so terribly annoyed by it, I bet they didn't know that it was not their fate to have to deal with the horrible security that UAC does provide, and that there is...<drum roll please> an OFF switch.

    Alright, I better take a break before I get too riled up, or I'll have to take a Xanax.

    Crunch
     

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