How do I get my computers to see each other on my home network?

My two computers use Windows 2000 and are connected to a hub along with my cable modem. This setup allows both computers to use the internet. My problem is getting the two machines to SEE EACH OTHER. I've run the windows networking wizard on both computers to no avail. I use the Microsoft Family Logon client and have the file and printer sharing enabled. I know it's possible to get them to see each other because I've done it before. Any suggestions?

 

You will need to configure MS networking client, and bind it to your TCP/IP stack. Then make sure file / print sharing is also installed and is bound.
Join the same workgroup name in MS Networking.
After a reboot you should be able to browse the Network for the other system.
Make sure you have a firewall on your hub / router that does not allow NetBIOS out onto the Internet. NetBIOS access is easily access and exploited.

 

Hmmm. I have no idea how to bind stuff to stacks. A friend at work told me to use the NetBEUI protocol and it worked. The only problem I still have is that even though my second computer sees the printer on the first computer and has the appropriate drivers installed, it can't make the printer work from the second computer. Any ideas about that?
I run BlackICE on "cautious" setting. Will that keep my NetBIOS from getting out on the internet?

 

Unfortunately, BlackIce Defender has a huge hole in it and is easily exploited. Check out this link for details and a good story: http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
I don't know how to bind things to stacks either. However, it would be good to know. If someone could give a step by step walkthrough, I think many people would benefit.
Skid

 

Gents - binding a protocol to a stack ain't nearly as arcane as it sounds.

If you load a protocol, it will be available for binding. In fact, normally it will automatically happen. If it didn't (or if you want to change the bindings) it is just a matter of checking or unchecking a protocol for a specific NIC (network adapter) on your PC.

I just checked a w2k pro system and a win95 system by putting bind in the find section of the main help menu and it gave a good link /w instructions on both machines. My assumption is that all the M$ operating systems will have the information. BTW - 2K/XP do it a little differently than 9x did. Not sure about ME.

 

Could you post that link? I went into my help index, and unfortunately I wasn't able to do it. Could it be because I am forced to use DHCP?

 

skid - if I understand you correctly, the bind information isn't in your main help section.

Strange but hey, computers are sometimes strange.

Say what OS you are using and maybe someone can give you a step-by-step to get to the binding information and make sure you are set correctly.

 

I do not know if 2K is the same or not but I have a three machine LAN using a hub which the Cable modem is also hooked to. ( all Win98 FE ) using IPX/SPX & NetBeui.

Two TCP/IP connections on each ( Dial-Up and Cable )

File and Printer Sharing is not bound to ANY TCP/IP ( dial-up adapter or the NIC ). Neither is Client for MS Networks.

This keeps the LAN & the Internet completely separated.

And if all is working properly you should get a warning when you try to connect to the Net if F&PS is bound to TCP/IP. I always did anyway. At least on the Dial-up. I am not sure about the cable as I did not bind F&PS to it anyway.

 

How do I get my computers to see each other on my home network?
My two computers use Windows 2000 and are connected to a hub along with my cable modem. This setup allows both computers to use the internet. My problem is getting the two machines to SEE EACH OTHER. I've run the windows networking wizard on both computers to no avail. I use the Microsoft Family Logon client and have the file and printer sharing enabled. I know it's possible to get them to see each other because I've done it before. Any suggestions?
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Hey guys whats with all the binding and technical jargon? why did no one ever ask him if his workgroups were the same name or start with something easy like that?

He needs to create a network. That means one pc need to access the internet(with the cable modem) an the other access the internet thru the other pc.

 

Hey guys whats with all the binding and technical jargon? why did no one ever ask him if his workgroups were the same name or start with something easy like that
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A friend at work told me to use the NetBEUI protocol and it worked. The only problem I still have is that even though my second computer sees the printer on the first computer and has the appropriate drivers installed, it can't make the printer work from the second computer

The not seing each other problem has been fixed according to the second paragraph by Shanks] The printer is the problem now.

He needs to create a network.

Network has been created and apparently working except for the printer.

That means one pc need to access the internet(with the cable modem) an the other access the internet thru the other pc.

I don't think so according to the connection stated below by Shanks. Each machine has individual access to the Net. I got three of them that way. None of them depend on the other for anything. Other than this machine does have to be on for the other two to use the printer.

My two computers use Windows 2000 and are connected to a hub along with my cable modem

BillyBob

 

That is certainly one way to do the job. Would absolutely not be my first choice though. Or second.

I use a router/switch which handles my small LAN - does DHCP for it. It also connects to my cable ISP and used NAT to feed traffic to the appropriate PC at the house. Lots more secure than ICS (or any of it's cousins). Less hassle too.

As to the techincal talk - it has the advantage of being precise. The user absolutely did need to have the bindings Bursley mentioned. I know that most network setup thingys will do it for you and never say what they did but when troubleshooting, it often helps to know what should have happened.

If someone says a tech thing and a user does not understand, easy enough to ask and someone will explain.

 

Newt

Please correct me if I am thinking wrong here.

If I were to change over to a router/switch and use it as a DHCP server each NIC would be asigned an IP. As of right now none of the NICs have an IP.

Also wouldn't each one have to have a Gateway entered which would be the address asigned to the Router ?

Here is where I get a little confused. I believe my LAN would now be using ( and I get the impression much faster ) TCP\IP and I could unload IPX/SPX and NetBeui.

I also believe that the games that my Wife and I play between the two machines would be much faster.

Also how would I optain my RR ( ISP ) IP so that I could convey it to our Golfing partener in Canada ? I ask this cause sometimes he plays Host and sometimes we do.

Also do I assume correctly that even with the router/switch the LAN and the Internet would still be separated as they are now by the router/switch being capable of auto sensing which is which.

And one last bit. Would we still be able to maintina two E-mail addresses as we have now?

BTW. I am trying to gain this info as I have put in a suiggestion for my B DAY mext month.

BillyBob

 

Billy Bob,
Here is where I get a little confused. I believe my LAN would now be using ( and I get the impression much faster ) TCP\IP and I could unload IPX/SPX and NetBeui.

I also believe that the games that my Wife and I play between the two machines would be much faster.Here is where I get a little confused. I believe my LAN would now be using ( and I get the impression much faster ) TCP\IP and I could unload IPX/SPX and NetBeui.

That correct. Each protocol you install MUST run over the network's transmission medium...in your case, probably Cat5 cable...and it takes up bandwidth in the cable. The less bandwith taken up, the faster the signal. However, with the number of computers you are talking about, you probably wouldn't notice a difference.
The thing you said that fascinated me the most is that you got your wife to play games with you!!! How did you accomplish that?
Maintaining the two emails has nothing to do with what you are talking. That is maintained by your email software.
Skid