HD bad sectors!!

i have got 48kb in bad sectors! i cant seam 2 repaire them using XP chkdsk/f, and so i cant use partition magic! is there any way i can repair them or remove or just make the DH not use them so i can use PM.
cheers

 

Personal opinion - don't mess around - get a new HDD. Practical opinion - quite often when you start getting bad sectors, its a sign of bad things to come. Scandisk should mark the sectors and avoid them, but the best program I know of for repairing these is locked up in my trick bag. OK - Spinright from Steve Gibson.

Let the flames begin ..........

 

i will be buying a new HD soon, infact ill be building a whole computer. so theres not point in gettin a new 1 just yet. i just want it to last a little big longer

 

Rockster2U Has the better idea about replacing the HD.

Scandisk should mark the sectors and avoid them,

Doesn't it take scandisk with surface check to mark them ? Or something like Norton DiskDoctor with surface check ?

SteveS

You more than likely do not have the time to spend that I do but I have one HD that has two sections totaling about 120k of bad sectors marked by Norton DiskDoctor. You are right PM would not work.

I would not recommed this for everyone or for an HD with the OS on it.

I just kept resizing a partiton before them till PM would accept it.

Then I resized and moved the partition after them so that PM would work.

So I now have an isolated section of app 250K on an 8.4gig that has been that way for at least 3 years now.

But again, replacing the HD may be the better idea. Especially for an OS drive.

BillyBob

 

i used disk doctor and its done nothing?

when u say u resized the disk till PM would work. how do u know how much 2 resize it by or where the bad sectors are?

 

You say NDD did nothing. Did you run it with surface check ? If not it won't. And even then it may not repair them. NDD is good but it will not preform miricales. Most of the time bad sectors represent physical damage to the HD.

The 8.4 had 3 partitions. A PM check for errors showed the bad area to be on the 2nd partition. So I just downsized it till PM showed no errors and would format.

And it is still in the other machine and has nothing but replaceable games etc. on it.

Then just upsized the 3rd partition till it included them and showed errors . Then just downsized it til it would format.

Also it was the ONLY HD in the machine at the time.

But, as I said before, this is VERY time consuming and I do not recommed it for a drive with the OS on it. And on the newer and larger HDs it may not even work.

The better idea is still giving some serious though about replacing the HD.

BTW. Is this related to the HDs that you refer to in the post about Moving Data and switching Drives ?

If so is the problem on the 13gig or the 30gig ?

BillyBob

 

yes it is. the problems on the 30gb drive which i will use for just storage of my music and files untill i get my upgrade.

yeah i used NDD with the full scan (surfase)

the sectors dont show up in NDD or in PM :S

 

yes it is. the problems on the 30gb drive *** yeah i used NDD with the full scan (surfase)

the sectors dont show up in NDD or in PM :S ***

Then this is something new to me. As NDD with surface check has always shown the bad sectors marked wth a B

Are you sure that you are not having a problem with long files names ?

If you by any chance had Norton Protection for the Recycle Bin enabled and did not remove it properly it can cause problems also. That is why I never use it anymore.

BillyBob

 

ah well ihave got the Recycle bin with the norton thing. but i dont want it there.. how do i remove the Recycle bin part

 

I guess you are using XP so it may be a little different.

I right click Recyle bin and then empty Norton Protected files.

then select the Norton Protection tab.

Then select remove same and make sure empty files also is checked.

Then after restarting I check to make sure NPROTECT is not being loaded again.

BillyBob

 

ok iv done that i think. im using xp yeah. still says norton recycle bin?

rite now what should i do? chkdsk?

 

I am out of ideas now.

Is that 30gig also the one you copied ( I believe ) stuff from the 13gig over to ?

If so I hope you did not remove same from the 13gig.

Did the bad sector problem come up before copying the 13gig contents to the 30gig or after ?

Was ( is ) there a difference in the format of the two disks.

For example; the 30gig being NTFS and the 13gig 32bit. If both 32bit were they formated with the same version format ?

Is the 30gig still all in one partition ?

I ask these things because I am sort of looking at what may be a common problem between the two posts. What was done it the other post may have some bearing on this one.

BillyBob

 

i hadnt actually managed to do anything. 1st thing i was gona do was split the HD into two. but i cant cuz of the bad sectors (pm wont work) so i still got all my stuff on the 13gb drive.

 

Well that part is good news.

But I am really out of ideas now.

BillyBob

 

neither do i, i cant do anything.. i cant get rid of em. so i cant use PM. can i resize the drive so there not being used? if so how?

 

If NDD did not show up the bad sectors then I have no idea other then maybe go for Rockster2U's of Spinright.

I have no knowledge of that software at all.

The only other thing is I think you cna use PM to downsize the drive to just over the amount being used. And see if it will check it then.

And then try to work around it by using my ideas from an earlier post.

If the bad area is within the used area then I am lost.

Question.

When you first installed the drive did you use the software that came with it to set it up ?

BB

 

You could probably partition that with FDisk and then try PM to resize your partitions along the lines/methods that BB used on his.

 

How do you get bad sectors in the first place? Just the other day i realised my drives got 3000kb in bad sectors....

 

no the software that came with the pc is windows 98! lol. and its got loads of other **** i dont want.

i got xp pro and just use that disk.

spinrite dosnt work on xp or nt systems so it says? then said something about a boot disk into dos...

 

OUCH !!!

Did I miss something somewhere or is this the first mention of an OEM ( pre-built ) machine that came with everything already installed ?

If so, then that makes a whole different ballgame out of it. Half ( or more ) of my ideas may not even work.

BB