"Go back..."

I also wanted to ask how to "go back ". About a year ago, I did have a virus get thru, and ya'll told me how to reset the system to an earlier date. It worked great. Well, this time I've gone and done it. I've deleted a program with files (family pix). Is there any way to go back in time & "get" those pictures?

Rich

 

Got a miracle for ya miracleman. What you need is a Scandisk/Restore. Start or restart your computer, hold the CTRL key or the F8 key to enter dos. At the prompt type Scandisk/Restore. Choose a registry entry to a time before you deleted your files. This should slow your heart back down.

Happy Thanksgiving.

 

I think SCANREG /RESTORE is what is needed.

This uses the RB00x.cab files that 98 Makes.

But these backups are only made if SCANREGISTRY is loaded at startup.

The actual RB00x.CAB files are in the C:\Windows\Sysbckup folder.

Also the RB00x.CAB files will not replace the actual files if they were indeed delete from the HD. Unless only a reference to them was taken out of the Regisrty.

Scanregistry in 98 is not like System Restore in XP. It only works with the registry.

BillyBob

 

I shoulda taken the computer class..

I tried several times to do what you guys said, but it doesn't work!? I end up at the "C prompt" but when I type "scandisk/restore ", I get "bad command, etc "

What am I doing wrong?

 

The title here is " Go Back ". Are you just saying you want to Go back to a previous time or are you refering to the PROGRAM Go Back ?

1--What happened to the files. Did you accicently delete them ?

2-- The command as you show it here is wrong. It should be SCANDISK /restore a space between K and /.

3--IF the files were in fact deleted, that is the wrong command anyway. It will not replace them.

4-- the command that I believe should be used is SCANREG /RESTORE. ( a space between G and / )

If the files were actually deleted then neither one of the commands is going ot help. Neither will replace filles.

The scanreg /restore will replace the registry and that is all. It will not replace other files on the HD.

If you are indeed refering to the program GO BACK, and you used it then it may not have been up to date.

In 98 if the files were actually deleted then they are gone.

BTW. As an after thought. Did you check the recycle bin to see if the files might be there ? If so they can be restored from there.

BillyBob

 

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Drank too much Thanksgiving cheer Thursday and seems it distorted my thoughts more than I had realized.

Thanks BillyBob for correcting me.

Scanreg /Restore was what I was trying to say. That will restore the lost program.

Miracleman said he "deleted a program with files (family pix)." My thinking here is that if the files were saved within the program instead of saved to My Documents or another folder, then the program would have created a registry entry for those files; as a program extention so to speak. And when the computer makes a backup of the registry, those files would have been saved also, via the registry.

For example: I use MGI PhotoSuite II SE to scan pics and save them to my computer. PhotoSuite has a folder within its program for saved pics and such. So when a pic, for example, is saved to that folder Photosuite, or Windows, creates a registry entry for whatever is placed in that folder.

Now for more explanation: I am just learning about the registry and so far I've learned that everything, and I mean everything, is logged in or entered into the registry. If I delete a file from My Documents or a non programed folder I can't restore it, but if that file is saved within a program, I should be able to restore it since the computer restores a backup of the registry every day.

Now if I saved the file today and then delete it a few hours later I cannot restore it since the computer has not created a backup of the registry. That is what I was thinking when I made the response post to miracleman. When he said he deleted "a program with files" I was under the impression that those files were saved within the program and could be restored.

Unfortunately, I have no experience with this but I now have the opportunity to test my theory. I'm going to save a file to the program and in a couple of days see if I can restore it with the program. If it doesn't work I'm going to be very confused and if it won't I sure hope someone explains why it won't work.

Also BillyBob when miracleman said "I wanted to ask how to 'go back' " I understand that to mean he was asking how to do a scanreg /restore and not anything related to the program GoBack.

Again I appoligize for the incorrect command.

 

Scanreg /Restore was what I was trying to say. That will restore the lost program

I don't think so.

Scanregistry only works with four ( 4 ) files. System.dat, User.dat, System.ini and Win.ini.

And the reigistry only contains pointers to the various file locations. And associations for opening certain files with a certain software. The files themselves are not in the registry.

Even if the actuall files do get deleted it does not remove the pointers in the registry.

If a program is Un-installed then it should remove them ( but does not always ).

Now if I saved the file today and then delete it a few hours later I cannot restore it since the computer has not created a backup of the registry

I suggest that you do some re-thinking. ( or one of us should ) That file would not be in the registry. The regisrty does not save actuall files. ( only the 4 mentioned earlier )

If you were refering to GO Back or System Restore in ME or XP then they would replace the missing files. but ONLY IF Go Back and SR were up to date

Like yourself I also use MGI PhotoSuite. But ALL Slideshows & Albums etc. that are created with it ARE stored ( backed up ) on another partition. At least the pix files are. ANd now they are actually on CDs too.

That way if I do mess up I have them to bring back into PhotoSuite.

The type of accident that this post refers to shows a 100% good reason for PARTITIONING. So the the files can be stored in a 2nd place. And OUT of the OS drive.

I also learned the hard bad language creating way. YEARS ago.

Bottom line.

BACK UP those pix files somewhere other than C: drive.

BillyBob

 

Scanreg won't restore any files other than those that belong to the registry. If you delete a program and you have files saved within that programs folder they may or may not be gone. If the uninstall takes them out, scanreg won't restore them. It only restores registry entries made by the program, not the program itself or any files created by the program. The only hope in this case is that the uninstall didn't take out the user created files. This is usually the way it works. You'll get a message referring to the fact that it couldn't uninstall everything and that the rest has do be done manually. Usually these are user created files that the uninstall program isn't programmed to take out because it's only programmed to take out what the installation program put in. If you look in windows explorer for the uninstalled program's folder you might get lucky and they may be there. I wouldn't bet on it in this case because I don't know just what exactly went on here. I've found exeptions to this so I've learned to always back up any files within a programs folder that I created (just in case).

edit: Guess BB got in ahead of me. None the less I have to agree with everything he says about this. Scanreg is not a backup program. It only backs up the system configuration (so to speak). If Internet Explorer quits downloading files or if windwows decides it doesn't want to show your taskbar, scanreg will most likely fix it. It's those types of problems that it'll take care of.

 

BillyBob & Zander

Well you two sure shot my theory to heck.

But dang nab it, I remember a time when I done a scanreg/restore and I had programs returned that I had deleted long ago.

I had to stop and think if I was confusing myself with a backup, but it can't be. I didn't get a writable cd until about a year ago. All my restores had to be from complete re-installs. So what did I do to restore these deleted programs if it wasn't through a scanreg/restore?

I couldn't back up nothing unless it fit on a floppy. I hate being retarded. I can't remember things a lot of the time.

Thanks for correcting me. I'm always being corrected. I'll see if I can find something else I can do. Seems the only thing I can do is write. Thanks for your patience with me. At least I didn't get banned. Yet.

 

dopey

Do not feel bad about not remembering.

I mention time after time about making backups to a different location.

I usually manage to get that part done OK.

But then FORGET where I put the backup

BillyBob

 

CAN'T SCANREG

here's what I entered.. The "C" prompt was there, so it looked like this: C:\}SCANREG /RESTORE (That was NG, so I put it in several other ways: SCANREG/RESTORE (ng) Scanreg /Restore (ng) and SCANREG / Restore, etc. All NG.

What am I doing wrong?

 

Check in the C:\Windows\sysbckup folder to see if there are any RB00x.cab files.

Those are 0 ( zeros ) in the file name and the x will be a number from 0 to 5.

If they are not there do a Control-Alternate-Delete and see if Scanregistry shows in the list.

If not at the Start/run line type MSCONFIG and see if scanregistry is unckecked there.

That is all I can think of right now.

BillyBob

 

Question.

Or at the C: prompt try typing

C:\Windows\Command\Scanreg /restore.

If the Path to C:\Windows and C:\Window\Command folders are not in the Autoexec.bat the path to scanreg does need to be included in the command line.

BillyBob

 

DARN I forgot to ask.

Are you shutting the machine down or at least restarting Windows at least once per calendar day ?

If not then the RB00X.cab files do not get made. Even if Scanregistry is loading at atartup.

BillyBob

 

EVERY day?

Well-l-l-l-l I don't know about EVERY day! ALMOST everyday, for sure. Is that important?

 

Yes it is important

Windows should be restarted ( no need to shut down completely ) at least once per day.

That keeps the reg backups up to date.

And it is more important if you make any changes.

Also by restarting it gives Windows itself a chance to make a few changes on its own. WHICH IT DOES DO

Also if you have made MAJOR changes and know all is going to be OK you can delete the existing RB00x.cab files, restart Windows and let it make a new one which will refelect those changes.

BillyBob