1. You are viewing our forum as a guest. For full access please Register. WindowsBBS.com is completely free, paid for by advertisers and donations.

fragmented files? [Unable to defragment]

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by barkey1991, 2007/04/20.

  1. 2007/04/20
    barkey1991

    barkey1991 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2007/04/19
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    hi, everytime i try to do a defrag it says not anougth disk space to do it, why?
     
  2. 2007/04/20
    barkey1991

    barkey1991 Inactive Thread Starter

    Joined:
    2007/04/19
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    fragmented files?

    hi, how can u delete fragmented files? and where are they located?
     

  3. to hide this advert.

  4. 2007/04/20
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

    Joined:
    2002/12/17
    Messages:
    6,585
    Likes Received:
    74
    Hi barkey1991,
    welcome to Windows BBS ... :) ... !

    During defragmentation, the tools needs space to move things around. This happens in several steps and the less free space there is, the longer it takes. At a certain percentage, it simply can not be done anymore.

    Christer
     
  5. 2007/04/20
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

    Joined:
    2002/12/17
    Messages:
    6,585
    Likes Received:
    74
    If we assume the file system being NTFS, when a file is created it gets an entry in the MFT (Master File Table) which is located in a certain reserved space on the hard disk. Each MFT entry is 4 kb in size which means that a file larger than that will get a second fragment elsewhere. A file which has two fragments, the MFT entry + a second fragment, is not reported as fragmented. When the file is changed, the change may fit within existing fragments but it is likely that a third fragment is the result. These additional fragments will end up where ever there is free space.

    Identifying fragmented files for deletion is difficult and not what you want to do. I would recommend buying a second hard disk, either installed internally or in an USB enclosure. When partitioned and formated, move certain files from the original one to the new one until you have ~25% free space on the original one. Now, you should be able to defragment.

    Christer
     
  6. 2007/04/20
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

    Joined:
    2002/05/10
    Messages:
    28,896
    Likes Received:
    389
    You will have to put a bit of meat on that question ....

    Where are you seeing these fragmented files and why do you want to delete them?

    File fragmentation is a normal occurrence - when Windows writes to disk it starts at the first bit of free space and then moves onto the next and so on. The file is therefore not necessarily contiguous and it is true that this can degrade performance.

    The standard method of restoring the fragmented files into a contiguous block is to defragment the drive. Windows has a built in defragger - right click on the drive in Explorer or My Computer > Properties > Tools tab > Disk Defragmenter.
     
  7. 2007/04/20
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

    Joined:
    2002/05/10
    Messages:
    28,896
    Likes Received:
    389
    You need about 25% free space on the drive to defragment efficiently.

    Side note - I see you have another thread on the same subject - I have merged the threads.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.