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Formating floppies

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Christer, 2004/10/27.

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  1. 2004/10/27
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hello all!

    On Win9X systems, a summary was displayed after formating a floppy. It contained number of sectors, good and bad.

    On WinXP, I have yet to see such a summary. If a floppy containing bad sectors is formated, will there be a summary warning me of this?

    Thanks for Your time,
    Christer
     
  2. 2004/10/27
    Zander

    Zander Geek Member Alumni

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    I'm not really sure whether it'll give you a warning or not but if you format them from a command prompt you'll be given a summary. Sorry, but that's the best I can do for now.
     

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  4. 2004/10/28
    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Thanks Zander!

    I've always done it from Windows Explorer but I'll try the command prompt route.

    Christer
     
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    Another thing that may be useful is to run Chkdsk on the floppy. It'll give you a full report of the condition. I do that sometimes just to see if the disk is in good shape. It's much faster than formatting it again just to verify it.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I did a "format a:" from the command prompt and among the results that were displayed were total bytes and bytes available. The figure was the same for both and from that I conclude that there were no bad sectors.

    'dude,

    I have never used chkdsk, would the proper command be "chkdsk a:" or should I get to the A: prompt and type chkdsk?

    Christer
     
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    Yes, that's the correct syntax for the command. chkdsk a:

    You'll have to do it from the command prompt of course since XP is so frugal with the command window when accessed from the "Run" utility. :)
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Thanks 'dude!

    Some things, when run from the RUN-utility, have very short expiry dates and the shutter-time of my photograpic memory is way too long!

    Christer
     
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    Mine too! :D

    BTW, you can also invoke switches to do other things and get different reports with chkdsk. I use the /r many times:

    C:\>chkdsk/?
    Checks a disk and displays a status report.


    CHKDSK [volume[[path]filename]]] [/F] [/V] [/R] [/X] [/I] [/C] [/L[:size]]


    volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon),
    mount point, or volume name.
    filename FAT/FAT32 only: Specifies the files to check for fragmentation.
    /F Fixes errors on the disk.
    /V On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of every file
    on the disk.
    On NTFS: Displays cleanup messages if any.
    /R Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information
    (implies /F).
    /L:size NTFS only: Changes the log file size to the specified number
    of kilobytes. If size is not specified, displays current
    size.
    /X Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary.
    All opened handles to the volume would then be invalid
    (implies /F).
    /I NTFS only: Performs a less vigorous check of index entries.
    /C NTFS only: Skips checking of cycles within the folder
    structure.

    The /I or /C switch reduces the amount of time required to run Chkdsk by
    skipping certain checks of the volume.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Thanks, copied to HDD and archived!

    The reason this came up was me formating a floppy in WE. Next, I wanted to make it bootable and used a self-extracting image of a "winme_plain_ boot_disk ". The final step would have been to transfer ABIT flash utilities.

    When creating the bootable disk, it was aborted since it couldn't write to the floppy (no ...... :D ...... not that mistake) and the second attempt on a different floppy gave a sector error towards the end. The third floppy worked. All floppies formated OK from WE and have been verified from the command prompt.

    Strange ...... :confused: ...... !

    Will run chkdsk now.

    Christer
     
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    Zander

    Zander Geek Member Alumni

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    I think if you use chkdsk to check the floppy, you'll want to use the /r switch. If you just use chkdsk a: it only checks the file system and from what I understand, you want to know if there's any bad sectors on the disk. Chkdsk a: won't do a physical check of the disk. You'll need the /r switch for this. Only problem is, it won't be any faster running this way than using the format command. It may be a bit shorter or it may be a bit longer. Don't know, I've never timed it.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    I ran chkdsk a: and chkdsk a: /r

    The difference is that the latter checks free space but the report on size and allocation units is the same:

    1*457*664 byte diskutrymme totalt
    1*457*664 byte diskutrymme tillgängligt

    512 byte i varje allokeringsenhet.
    2*847 allokeringsenheter finns totalt på disken.
    2*847 allokeringsenheter är tillgängliga på disken.

    format a: produces this report on size and allocation units:

    1*457*664 byte diskutrymme totalt
    1*457*664 byte diskutrymme tillgängligt

    512 byte i varje allokeringsenhet.
    2*847 allokeringsenheter är tillgängliga på disken.

    12 bitar i varje FAT-post.

    (No need for translation, I guess.)

    chkdsk a: /r is much quicker than format a:

    Christer
     
  13. 2004/10/28
    Zander

    Zander Geek Member Alumni

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    I guess you're right. FWIW, I just ran both of them on the same floppy. Format a: took 1 minute 40 seconds. Chkdsk a: /r took about 40 seconds. I always thought chkdsk took just as long as format but I've never really timed the two commands to see. Guess I know better now.
     
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