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Resolved Find or remove network password

Discussion in 'Networking (Hardware & Software)' started by ramjet, 2013/07/01.

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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I have a D-Link NAS on my LAN..When trying to map one of its drives, I
    get a pop up wanting NETWORK Password..I don't ever remember assigning
    a PW to My LAN..I've tried everything and all the User and PW's I can think of
    and much online research but can find no solution.
    Can anyone help ???
    Running Win 7 Ultimate OS
     
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    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Hi ramjet, if you didn't set your own password initially, it's quite probable that the original factory set was admin. Try that and see if it unlocks - you can then set your own password. Neil.
     

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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    If Windows 7 is configured to use password sharing, then you must access the NAS and setup shares there, using your Windows logon names and passwords. Open a browser and enter the NAS' IP address in the address bar. Login and setup NAS users and passwords.
     
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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi Neil,
    Yep, I've tried ADMIN and any other passwords I could think of,also
    the PW's for my modem.
    Thanks.


    Hi TonyT,
    Yes, I do have users(guests) who can log into the NAS with the PW I have assigned..I have no problem there.

    It's when I try to map a NAS drive that I get the Windows Security pop up
    wanting a "NETWORK PASSWORD "and "USER NAME" that I don't know(have).
    Thanks
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    You must enter the username and password that is used to access the share on the NAS. When mapping a drive there will be a link that says something like "connect using different credentials or sign on using a different username ".
     
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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi TonyT,
    I do get the pop up every time I try to map a drive..It wants a user name
    and password..I've tried everything I know about(including the ones I use to access the NAS shares)..Nothing works.

    Title of this pop up is "Windows Security "
    Thanks..
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Can you access the NAS shares via Windows Explorer? If so, you should rt click & then map that share.
     
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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi ToniT,
    In windows explorer when I rt click on Map or open or anything pertaining to either drive on the NAS I get the
    pop up wanting the Metwork Password.
    Thanks for helping.
    Ramjet
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Are you saying you then cannot even access a share on the NAS? If not, then you don't have the NAS setup properly.
     
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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Find or replace network password

    Hi TonyT,
    I have no problen accessing the drives and files on my NAS.
    It has a FTP address as well as a cloud address and a local
    computer address(IP)..I just can't map the two drives in the nas because of this @#$#@ Network Password problem.
    All I need is a way of removing or replacing this password, which(as far as I know) I did not set.
    Thanks,
    Ramjet
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Do this:

    Start > Run > gpedit.msc
    Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Security Settings > Local Policies > Security Options
    Network Security > LAN Manager Authentication level
    Set to "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated "

    Now try to map the drive and enter the required username & password for the NAS share. If these credentials are not the same as your Windows logon username and password then you must select "Connect using different credentials ".
     
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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    network password

    Hi TonyT,
    Thanks for your help, but still no joy..I tried what you suggested but after windows settings,I get "public key settings" Nothing like you stated.

    More Info. I installed a fresh win 7 on a extra hdd, got connected to my internet again and in win explorer, the nas shows up as do both shared drives but when trying to access(clicking) the icon, the #$%$#^ same ole network password barb pops up again...I was very careful during the installation of the new win 7 not to set ANY passwords.

    Whadda you think ???

    Ramjet
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    You are trying to connect to a NAS that has user accounts and passwords. You cannot access the NAS unless you access it using one of the user accounts and passwords that you setup in the NAS.

    Let's say, when setting up the NAS, you setup a user account called Harry. You then gave Harry access to a directory on the NAS, several directories or the full NAS itself. Now, if you try to access the NAS from a computer you MUST access it using Harry and Harry's password.

    The NAS has a built in administrator account which as access to everything. This is the account when you logon to the NAS via a Web browser or the NAS software installed on your comp. But this account is NOT used and should NOT be used anywhere else other than in a Web browser or the NAS software.

    You could create 100 directories on the NAS for storing files. And unless you access the NAS settings and give Harry permission to access some of those directories, Harry will not be able to browse the NAS from a computer.

    Those shared drives on the NAS have permissions. The permissions regulate who can and cannot access the shares. If want to access one of those shared drives you must use the user name and password of the NAS user, not the Windows user name and password unless the Windows user and password are the exact same.
     
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    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi TonyT,
    Thanks for the information, My NAS is working as you describe..I have assigned users and passwords and they can access the NAS within the areas that
    I have allowed..I can also access the NAS and change anything and as administrator. My NAS has two HDD in it, When it was first installed, I mapped these
    drives with drive letters Y & Z, I could access these drives thru "My Computer "(using Y or Z just as one could using C or D)and could copy and erase files.
    is what I am trying to get back (X & Y vanished several months ago). Now you know the rest of the story..When trying to map these drives, I get the network
    password pop up.
    Ramjet
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    Access the NAS control panel via a Web browser > add yourself as a new user, using your Windows logon name and password. Grant yourself privileges on the 2 drives. Then try to map them. If there's already an account on the NAS with your Windows username and password, delete it before re-recreating it.

    Some NAS devices have bugs that may be corrected with new firmware. Get the latest firmware if don't already have it.

    I know you said you can access the drives, but not map them. Please answer:

    How are you accessing the drives? > Do you access them via Network icon on the Desktop?
    How is the NAS listed in Windows Explorer? > As a media device or as network storage?
    What model dlink?
    Does the NAS have a static IP address? > If not, change to static IP.
    Have a look at Control Panel > Credential manager > edit
     
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    Steve R Jones

    Steve R Jones SuperGeek Staff

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    You'll need to rethink this....and add a password to your user account.
     
  18. 2013/07/06
    ramjet

    ramjet Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Find or remove network password.

    Hi TonyT,
    Thanks again for your help..My NAS is a Dlink DNS325 and as I have stated, these functioned did work !!! It's this windows security network password thing that has me bugged..not the NAS..Now..I bit the bullet and uninstalled the NAS..reinstalled the latest firmware(Already had the latest installed when all this was going on). And everything seems to be working OK now..I CAN MAP the DRIVES w/o the PW barb. Hated to do this as I lost the data on the drives..I'm going to mark this as resolved, however still not happy about the network password pop up..

    Thank you very much for your help.

    Ramjet

    BTW I could get to the drives before thru the cloud address.
     
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    TonyT

    TonyT SuperGeek Staff

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    1. Glad you got it working.

    2. That a NAS reset fixed things indicates that it was the NAS at fault, not Windows.

    3. A NAS is essentially a small computer running a proprietary operating system or an embedded Linux operating system branded by the manufacturer. These systems tend to have bugs and do fail from time to time.

    4. Cloud access has little to do with Windows and access is controlled by the NAS.

    5. That Windows was forcing a username and password means that it was prompting because that's was the NAS was telling it to do. Windows sends your request to connect to the NAS and the NAS responded, "username and password required in order to connect." Or the NAS sends a corrupted response that Windows interprets as "name & password required." The latter the most likely.

    6. I strongly suggest using Windows passwords for your user accounts and NAS access, especially if the NAS allows WAN access.

    7. That you could get to the drives by cloud access has no bearing on the previous problem. The NAS is running several unique services that control how data is accessed. The cloud access software on the NAS in no way affects LAN access, and vice verse. UPnP media software on the NAS controls how media files are accessed via the UPnP protocols and in no way affects cloud or LAN access.
     

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