Find On This Page RPC error

Running IE 5.01 on Windows 95, the Find on This Page option in Edit errored out with a RPC stub incompatibility error. And extract.exe stopped working, generating only 0 byte sized files from .cab files. I tried replacing oleaut32.dll and others, installing IE 5.5, running dcom95.exe, running SPEU, using repair in Tweak IU, using repair in ADD/Remove, and even reinstalling HTML help via hhupd.exe (which got me an itss.dll error). All the help pages suggested I try the 4275 series of oleaut32.dll and company but it failed to fix. Nor did mcrepair.exe help at all. Only by going to Internet Explore in Program Files and clicking Setup and installing IE 4.7, then installing IE 5.01 from CD did I regain the menu functions. I'm scared to try any Microsoft updates after this. Wonder which update wrecked my system? Can I update to IE 5.5 and not suffer for it on my Windows 95B system? Ought I avoid hhupd.exe on Microsoft's Windows 95 update page?

 

I run IE5.5sp2 on Win95B with no problems, with all the IE critical updates (except for the last June 4th cumulative patch), I've also done the latest Jscript and VBScript (js55men.exe and vbs55men.exe) updates, the IE_MDAC Q329414 patch (MS02-065) all the WMP 6.4 and OE critical updates and have MS Java VM 3810 installed.

I've never had IE4 on my system, having gone straight from IE3.02 to IE 5.5. The Find on This Page option in Edit works for me in IE 5.5sp2.

My hh.exe version is 4.74.8875, Internal Name is HH 1.32, and it's dated 09-12-00, same date I installed IE5.5. I've never done an HTML Help Update for Win95. Do you have a link to that? I didn't see it on the Windows 95 downloads page.

If you mean the updated HTML Help control (811630) mentioned in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;811630 (in relation to the Feb 2003 IE cumulative update) it won't work on Win95, from what I've gathered, even if you could get a download. I don't have the details but supposedly, HH 1.3x is the highest version that will work with Win95.

As far as oleaut32, dll, my version is 2.40.4277 if that means anything.

 

I had the same the problem, turned out to be a corrupt DLL, run file checker, or do a search, the corrupt DLL is down to 200 = bits, the correct DLL has over 400. calleled something like SEPTRC.DLL, sorry that name is not correct, but that and size change should help with file checker.

Hope this helps,

I will try to find the correct name and the site I downloaded it from and post back.

 

When you were extracting files, were you doing it in a dos window? If so, you need to restart in dos mode or select Command Prompt from the startup menu obtained by pressing F5 when booting. The reason for this is that windows prevents overwriting system files while in use.

 

I am yet plagued with the inability to read .chm (compressed help files) used as help pages by some software.

Thanks all. Copying an older oleaut32.dll and its mates from a disk via DOS was no cure on my Windows 95 system; that may help Windows 98 users.

Find On A Page now works with the IE 5.01
I see that Axcel216's webpages, the section on Windows Essential System Add-Ons, concurs that Help Update 1.40 is incompatible with Windows 95 on OSR1 and OSR2 systems and has a hotlink to an IE5.5 download of 84.1 MB that installs HTML Help 1.32. At Axcel216, a search the site inquiry took me to the page with the tip. Belarc freeware tells me the hotfixes from Microsoft on my system. I have the oleaut32.dll 2.40.4515 series running at present.

I'd avoid hhupd.exe on the MS site like the plague until upgrading to Window's 98. That IS the HTML Help Update that is incompatible with Window's 95 although there is no onsite indication of it.

Perhaps Alice's use of an earlier hhupd.exe enable's her to read .chm files, I just don't know what it takes to do so. At least, Find on the Page is fixed. I'll try replacing some files with those Alice mentions unless someone can fill in just what component's need to be updated to read .chm files.

 

Window's 95 lacks the file checker of Windows 98. Sintinel freeware is handy about spotting dll changes but I could not figure how many files I needed to revert to get things back in order.

Axcel216's site has the hhupd.exe 1.31 version for download independent of IE 5.5 so I will try it. Sure hope I can read .chm files.

 

I can read Compiled HTML Help (.chm) files because IE5.5 installs the HTML Help viewer components from hhupd.exe 1.3x. I've never run hhupd.exe itself, like I said before.

This paragraph is copied from http://www.mvps.org/htmlhelpcenter/htmlhelp/hhsysreq.html

"So, what about hhupd.exe? This is the executable which will install a given version set of HTML Help viewer components to work with an installed version of Internet Explorer. Installing Internet Explorer 4 also installs the HTML Help viewer components from hhupd.exe version 1.0. Installing Internet Explorer 5 also installs the HTML Help viewer components from hhupd.exe version 1.21. Installing the Internet Explorer 5.5 Platform Preview also installs the HTML Help viewer components from hhupd.exe version 1.3, but only if hhctrl.ocx is earlier than the version that shipped with IE 5.00 (4.73.8412). Otherwise, the update won't occur at all from the Internet Explorer 5.5 Platform Preview install. "

Good luck with Axel's hhupd version 1.3.1. I hope it works for you. Here is the website url if anyone is curious:
http://members.aol.com/axcel216/web.htm

Just a thought, you may already have a good portion of the IE5.5 setup files on your system and might not need that 84MB download. Look in C:\Windows Update Setup Files and check the properties of ie5setup.exe for the version number.

 

PS

I found the following at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...p/html/hwHTMLHelpFrequentlyAskedQuestions.asp

 

Thanks, Alice. I deleted those and hh.exe. After deleting those, the computer reported I did not have HTML Workshop installed on reboot. I simply double clicked on the 1.32 version of hhupd.exe I had downloaded from axcel216's site and I found I had recovered my ablility to use menued help links. There was a Microsoft help page referring to How to Manually Uninstall HTML Workshop. It referred to removal of hh.exe and hh.dat, as well as the asynch, oleaut, itss, and olepro files. I didn't even have hh.dat files on my computer but removal of these fixed the problem.

Now that I have a route back to IE 5.01, I'll probably try IE 5.5 as it did display graphics quicker, though it handled java slower than 5.01.

If IE 5.5's installation buggers my help access, I'll delete the 4 files and hh.exe related to hhupd.exe again, run the 1.3 hhupd.exe, and see if it works. If that fails, I'll just go back to the IE4 setup, update to 5.01, then delete the 4 files and run 1.3 hhupd.exe and be no worse off than being stuck with IE 5.01.

I'm just glad to have my "find on a page" and help links back. Thanks.

 

Hi Bolo,

Glad to hear of your success. Thanks for posting back with the outcome. Good luck with IE5.5!

 

IE 5.5 ran successfully and I retained the ability to "Find on a Page." So, the problem was the unfriendly "update" of my HTML Workshop files. So, that is a happy conclusion to the RPC error and Find On a page problem. But an inadvertant upgrade of my mail program via IE 5.5's install yielded the below which I have posted as my new problem. I list it here because it is a related buggering of my system courtesy of a Microsoft update.

All was well until a 2nd user installed a 2nd internet account on the computer and the new version of IE 5.5 installed Outlook Express 5. Now, that Outlook Express has never even run, just generates an error message "Identity Switch canceled" so I don't even have access to its menu --and it took away my old Internet Mail program and I can't even access my old mail and address book with a new mail client, Pegasus, much less run OE 5. I'd have to encourage W95 users to NOT upgrade to OE5, use the minimal install of IE5.5. MS help page about the "Identity Switch cancelled" does me no good. I have only one identity listed under current users in regedit, not even a reference to an account #. If I am supposed to delete everything in Identities, Where is my reassurance I will retain an ability to receive mail. No uninstall and reinstall of OE5 or IE5.5 has helped.

 

You might want to post this in a new topic but, for what it's worth, When I installed IE5.5 over 3.02 I DID select Outlook Express, and OE5 works fine on my Win95 system! It did replace my Internet Mail and News program but I still had the old Internet Mail .mbx files (C:\Program Files\Internet Mail and News\Default User\MAIL\inbox.mbx, etc) so you could try importing the old \Internet Mail and News\...\ Mail contents into Pegasus (I don't use Pegasus so someone else would have to give you the details). That's assuming you still have them on your system. (I did, after my IE5.5/OE5 install)

Another thing to try would be to UNinstall Microsoft Outlook Express 5 from Add/Remove Programs, Install/Uninstall tab and see if you end up with a working Internet Mail and News.. however, based on the following, you would be better off with OE5:

from my notes:
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From: Michael Santovec (michael_santovec@prodigy.net)
Subject: Re: Internet mail & news also for win98/IE5 ?
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.internet.news.reader.software
Date: 2000/02/07


You should be using Outlook Express (OE) with IE4 or IE5. Internet Mail and News (IMN) is designed for use with IE3. IMN expects the IE3 version of various DLL files. But IE4/IE5 has replaced them with newer versions. IMN sort of works with IE4/IE5, but strange things can happen. Note that IE4 and IE5 each have their own version of OE. Using the IE4 version of OE with IE5 also has problems.

I've heard of people using IMN after and upgrade from IE3. I don't know if it's possible to install IMN over IE5 and/or Win98.
=======end c/p===============

If you do start a new thread topic:

-Give more details on what exactly happened (not sure what you meant by the second user setting up a new account).
-Describe your Outlook Express 5 uninstall and reinstall steps.

-Mention whether or not you've already tried the suggested fix in the mskb article:
OLEXP: "Identity Switch Canceled" When Starting Outlook Express
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q224/4/63.ASP
which says in part:

"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\Account ID
where Account ID represents your identity.

If the User ID is listed, then delete the User ID String Value and create a new one using the procedure above.

For example, if an identity is represented as follows

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\12345ABC-ABCD-12A1-ABC1-12A12AB12345
its User ID should have a value data of:

12345ABC-ABCD-12A1-ABC1-12A12AB12345

EDIT I see you did start a new thread, and that you have already received instructions from markp62

http://www.windowsbbs.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19640

 

Thanks all for the good info. I managed to run OE 5 only after deleting thru regedit the curly bracketed set of number and letters you get when you click the plus beside Identities under the Current User section of regedit. When I subsequently clicked OE 5, it ran. It permitted me only to import my old mail via the menu of OE, not thru the installation wizard.

I was happily running IE 5.1 with Internet Mail on Windows 95 and it used a lot less of my hard drive than this IE 5.5 and OE 5. But I can't see anyway to go back to there as OE 5 appears to have caused Internet Mail's exe to have vanished and no uninstall recovers it. All this is just bloat ware to me but I'm stuck with it now. At least it runs. I would never have gotten into this jam if I hadn't tried to use Windows Update page for 95 and the HTML Help Workshop version 1.4. As mentioned, Axcel216 saved me by offering the Windows 95 compatable 1.32 hhupd.exe HTML Help file which I employed after manually Uninstalling the Help Workshop. Thanks, all.