Resolved File can't be copied, only deletion ok

hi friends

In a PC using winxp.prof.sp3 with NTFS, numerous files are kept in a commonly shared folder use by all Users, thus full control is given to Users at the Sharing & Security tabs. To further ensure all individual files (some from a old primary hard disk now converted to as slave hard disk) are truly controlled by Users, in the Advanced Security dialog, 'Replace permission entries on all child objects..' was done.

However a few of them cannot be copied and could only be deleted.

A ChkDsk /f was done on reboot to flush out errors in the NTFS but these files remain to exist in the folder and continue to exhibit the same behavior.

Q:
1. Is there anyway to check the sharing & security properties of each file?
2. Why such behaviour?
3. Beside deleting, can some tweaking be done to return them to normal?

Any advice appreciated.

 

Are these files used by local users [users on computer] or LAN users ?

 

Hi rsinfo, go to see u again

I am only talking abt files use within a standalone PC, thus all users are local to the PC, no LAN users.

 

Thanks.

Can you open the files or not even that ? Can the user who created the files copy them ?

 

hi rsinfo

These are old files & users are thus unknown thus i need to open their properties to find what rights are given to them.

Opening is not possible, never even copy .. only delete

 

Most probably files are encrypted. How to encrypt a file in Windows XP.

 

Not likely as there are no encryption ever on any of files in this PC.

 

Then I can't think of any other reason. A malware infection can't be ruled out too.

 

TonyT, I can't think of any NTFS attribute which would prohibit copying/opening file but would allow deletion of file.

 

I agree. Using the old drive as slave and then trying to access the files on it are the same as creating a new user account then trying to access the files from your old account.

How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP

 

Thanks to all of u for the interest.

Tony, if drive attribute is the issue, how do one access it.
Whiskeyman, if a folder is still owned by 'stranger', it will show up in the Security Advanced Permission or Owner dialogs as some 'numbers' member.

Still the question remains: how do one check the ownership attributes of a file or drive; folder ownership is evident from the Security dialogs but not these 2.

 

Period: Missing Permissions

On further tinkering, the following was confirmed:
The security properties of a file in a folder can be exposed by right clicking it via Win Explorer to get to its properties. In non simple sharing, the security tab will be shown.

In my problem, the owner of the problem file rightly belongs to the Admin, there was no odd owner. What was missing was no one has the permission to do anything with it. In this way only deletion is possible being an object in the folder where full control is given to the Admin.

Once permission to the file is given to the Users, the file can be read, copied as intended. Permission is given via the Security > Advanced dialog.

This hence should end this Thread.