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Experiencing Lag after Service Pack 2

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Dredd, 2003/07/28.

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  1. 2003/07/28
    Dredd

    Dredd Inactive Thread Starter

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    After installing Service Pack 2 whenever I play a game, it laggs the system horribly. Unfortunately not all of Service Pack 2 is uninstallable nor did I have arestore point set for before it's instalation.


    Any suggestions? Not being able to game is frustrating.
     
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    PeteC

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    Hi Dredd - and Welcome to the Board :)

    Service Pack 2 ?? I assume you are referring to XP ? According to this page SP 2 for XP is not due out yet. If you have a copy it must be a beta and an early one at that?

    Perhaps unwise to install.

    Anyway there may be a workaround - SP1 gave you the opportunity to back up existing files so that SP1 could be uninstalled. Was there a similar feature in the SP 2 you installed - and did you make use of it?

    Don't think there is much point in re-installing SP2 and invoking the backup facility as the damage is done and files have been replaced.

    You could try a repair of XP.
     

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    jram

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    If you are running 2000 see if it's in the add and remove list..If you are running XP they are all in there...
     
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    nor did I have arestore point set for before it's instalation.

    I believe ( at least with XP ) it should make one of its own when installing things.

    Do you have System Restore active ?

    My XP does.

    BillyBob
     
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    jram - hi :)

    Maybe a little confusion here :

    If the latest version of XP with SP 1 or 1a is installed only those critical updates installed subsequently are shown in Add/Remove programs (I know they are listed as SP2 - and they will be included in SP 2 when it is released, but they are not Service Pack 2)

    If Service Pack 1 or 1a was installed separately from the original release of XP and the option to back up existing files was taken, then there is an option to remove SP 1 or 1a in Add.Remove programs.

    Seems l1ke Dredd has got hold of an alpha or beta copy of SP 2, probably incomplete. I assume he is talkking of XP as he posted in this forum.
     
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    Dredd

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    I am refering to XP. As for wether it's Service pack 1 or 2, on the add remove options it does list these various files as SP2. Wether it's alpha or Beta all I know is these were installed through the normal Windows Update. I installed this sometime in June mid month I believe.

    They list under add/remove as WindowsXP Hotfix (SP2) with a number following. There are about 4 that do not have the remove option available.
     
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    PeteC

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    OK - all is now clear - SP1 with updates which are labelled SP 2 as I posted above :) Very confusing - thank you M$ :p

    The one update which slowed down PC's was 811493, but this has since been fixed by MS - sometime in June I think. So if you have the original (April) version that may well be the cause of your PC slowing down.

    If you have not uninstalled that do so and let Windows update install the later version.

    BTW - any update listed in Add/Remove programs can be removed.

    For other possible causes search the XP forum with 'Slow' as the keyword and tick 'search titles only'.
     
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    Dredd

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    811493 fix did not solve problem

    I removed and reinstalled and my problem was not fixed.

    As for hotfixes not being removeable here what I encounter whe I go to add/remove.

    Windows Hotfix (SP2) [see Q329089 for more information]
    THis one as well as 329834 and 329390 are not removeable.



    I'm almost certain it has to be something in the hotfixes that is lagging my PC.

    Should I remove Service Pack completely and try to update it again?
     
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    PeteC

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    329834 and 329390 are both on my m/c and can be uninstalled through Add/Remove. I know this to be true as I had the need to systematically remove updates one by one only last week to try to resolve a bsod problem.

    329089 ? Maybe a typo?? No idea what this is - I did not find it listed in the Windows update catalogue - see here
    http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

    If you cannot uninstall via Add/Remove go to Windows Explorer > Tools > Folder Options > View and 'Show hidden folders' and uncheck 'Hide protected operating system files'

    Then go to Windows directory - all the uninstall folders for the updates will be visible - run uninstall from there.

    Set the folders view back as before when you're done! Safer that way.

    I very much doubt that SP1 is causing your PC to run slowly - I would be much more interested to know what 329089 is all about as MS appear to deny all knowledge of it.
     
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    typo

    It's 329048.


    I feel the problem has to be the hotfixes because that was the only thing changed on my system when I started noticing the lag.
     
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    PeteC

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    Also on my m/c - and can be removed.

    If you are convinced that the updates are the cause of your problem - remove 'em !

    Seems to me that it would be a good idea to give your m/c a good flush out and get rid of the rubbish that accumulates, plus check on spyware, etc.

    To save me typing go to this thread ;

    http://www.windowsbbs.com/printthread.php?s=&threadid=18359

    Print it out and follow Mike's instructions for 'Clean up good!'
     
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    Hello jram,

    SP1 was the cumulative patches that MS issued from 10/01 to the end of 2002. SP2 will be the same for post SP1 patches. It may be confusing, but this is how MS chooses to label their updates post SP1.

    I can even understand that because there a lot of users that either did not install SP1 or rolled it back because of problems it caused. So for anyone wanting specific patches that were part of SP1, it is labeled as such.

    Regards - Charles
     
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    PeteC

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    jram

    Virtually all those hits on Google are for Service Pack 2 for other applications - like Windows 2000, Office etc.

    Add 'Windows + XP' to your search criteria

    There was one hit I noticed on page 2 (didn't go further) for XP SP 2 in Italian. Windows XP Service Pack 2 is in alpha/beta right now and won't be released until Q4 2003 - maybe.

    Patches subsequent to SP 2 will no doubt be labelled SP 3.

    As Charles rightly says SP2 will be an accumulation of the patches issued since SP 1 and may have the odd goody included.
     
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    jram

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    Pete...I get it now,they try there best to confuse everyone..
    At least for now, most if not all the updates can be removed..
     
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