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    PAULDEP

    PAULDEP Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Good Morning Everyone,, I have a question. I am ALWAYS looking for a new E-mail program to try. I currently use Outlook Express 6.0, but not with much faith. I've tried Eudora, Pegasus,etc. They each have there good & bad parts. Can anyone give me some of their opinions on a E-Mail program that they like.
    Thank you,,Paul D.
    "Go Red Sox" ;)
     
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    The Bat! Its virtues are listed on the site to which I've linked so I shan't bother listing them again here!
     

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    PAULDEP

    PAULDEP Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks Brett. Do you think that "The Bat" is more for Small Bussiness. Its really a great looking program.I have nothing to loose. There is a 30 day FREE trial. I'm going to give it a try,,,
    Thank You again,,
    Paul :cool:
     
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    brett

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    It's equally suitable for both home and business use. TB! is, however, quite different to OE and other mails clients and therefore takes a little getting used to. You probably won't be smitten by it within the first few days of use!
     
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    PAULDEP

    PAULDEP Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Great Brett,,thanks so much for the help & info. The more I read the better it looks. I appreaciate all the effort.
    Paul :D
     
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    Eudora and The Bat are great for other reasons. They are both Standalone programs.

    They ARE NOT 100% dependent on Windows, IE or OE . If they are installed on a partition other then C: they WILL NOT be lost if the C: drive goes haywire.

    Norton Anti-Virus is less of a problem with them also.

    I am using the same folder and setup of Eudora as I did when I had Win95.

    I am not sure about The BAt but Eudora does not depend on Windows Address Book AT ALL if the addresses are set up as Nicknames.

    Again I am not sure about TB but Eudora can be set up in a separate folder for each account and each account has its own separate mail boxes.

    I had The Bat for awhile but never really got to deep into using it.

    But I will say that most anytyhing is better then OE.

    BillyBob
     
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    PAULDEP

    PAULDEP Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hey BillyBob,,I agree that almost ANYTHING is better than OE. I'm trying out Eudora. I'm glad it will work well with Norton Anti Virus. I'm using NAV 2002.
    I might be back for some more questions about Eudora. Does Eudora have a Forum just for questions on it?
    Thanks again all,,
    Paul
     
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    No, but there is a newsgroup:-

    comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows
     
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    Billy Bob...
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    But I will say that most anytyhing is better then OE.
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    OK, I'll bite. What is wrong with OE? I have been using it since 1995 on my first comp. I haven't had any probs with it.
    Am I missing something?:) Anyone??..

    Bill
     
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    brett

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    Nothing whatsoever. In fact, it's much maligned. Whilst there are more security holes discovered in OE than in other products, this is largely due to the fact that OE is more frequently targeted than other clients because of its large user base.

    I use TB! simply because it has a few useful functions which OE does not (for example, templates). If it weren't for these additional features, I'd be an OE user as, in most ways, it's way ahead of the competition.
     
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    What is wrong with OE.

    You asked. I will tell you what I think.

    1. Can be Windows & IE specific.
    2. If Windows or IE go haywire OE can go with it. Possibly losing all e-mail and addresses.
    3. If the C: drive needs to be formated OE needs to be re-installed and start over.
    4. Windows address book gets skrewed up OE may be useless. You lose it and all addresses may be gone. Also IF Oultlook ( or anything that uses WAB ) is being used those addersses may be also lost. I know that someone is going to say BACKUP. I will say this to you. That does not always work. Version to version may not work. Been there and done that and was a no go.
    5. With Mutiple accounts it is a tough job to keep separate mail boxes ( if it can even be done )
    6. NAV ( at least in my case ) does not work well on Mutiple accounts in OE. May check one but not the other.

    I do not even install OE when I do IE.

    However Eudora and The Bat can be set up on another partition and elimminate ALL of the above.

    As I mentoned before. My Eudora is being used from the same setup and from the same folder on the same E: drive as when I had Win95. And I have not lost any e-mail or addresses for at least 5 years. This HD has been on several different machines. The OS & IE has been changed 2 or 3 times ( C: was formated once ) and still no loss. All I need is some version of Windows.

    Now my Friends, let me see you do that with OE.

    BillyBob
     
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    OTOH, BB, let me see you (easily) configure Eudora for use by multiple users, password protect each users' account (in such a way as to prevent viewing of mails), select (on the fly) one of multiple addresses associated with a single name, prevent the execution of potentially unsafe attachments, automatically PGP-sign outgoing signature-bearing messages, view certain embedded graphics without the need to install further software and obtain upgrades at no cost (without the need to suffer advertisments).

    It's swings and roundabouts and which client is the "best" really hinges on individual needs and preferences.
     
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    My e-mail folder tree is on my D:\ drive. When I reinstall OE, I simply go to options/maintenance and change the store folder to my D:\email folder. I have never lost an e-mail since I learned how to do this. I don't have to backup. Also keep a copy of my address book which I update the copy when I add a new one. I can go back to address books from three years ago.

    I have other email addresses called 'identities ". I suppose you could call them mail boxes. It's a simple thing to switch identities. All mail is separate on the ISP server and each identity can download it's own messages. My ISP offers 10 Identities per account.

    I was using Norton AV and it was configured to check all my identities. I use AVG and f-prot now and so far so good.

    I tried Eudora Lite once. I didn't care for its spyware so I deleted it. Also tried Fox. Couldn't see where it was any better than OE. Now I have DL'ed The Bat! and am giving it a shot.

    I guess it gets down to the same as which word proc is best. It's the one you know how to use more than the other?
    Bill
     
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    Yes. Eudora may lack some of the capabilities that OE has. And I would be stiupid to say that it don't. But it does have many of them also. I have upgraded several times and still no ads. It does not open atatchemnts. I have not had to load anything special to view graphics. I have not had a problem other than I had to download PowerPoint reader. But OE would need that also. As long as the viewers are there for OE they will work in Eudora.

    Although Eudora does not ( or did not. I have not tired lately ) have the capacity for adding animated graphics.

    Very Well Said.

    Yes. Just like anything else it may not be suitable for all users. I will not in any way disagree with that.

    But the best part of Eudora for me is the I LOSE NOTHING if IE, OE or Windows messes up. Just as long as Windows runs. Even if I have to re-install Windows Euduora is ready to run.

    The same Eudora will run on any version of Windows from 95 up to and including ME. WITH NO reconfiguration at or conflicts. I have even COPIED it from one machine to the other and still no changes had to be made. As long as I copied from E: to E:. If not then just a couple of .INI files needed editing.

    Absolutely. That says it all very nicely.

    Merci Mon Ami. ( Thank You my Friend. )

    BillyBob
     
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    That's was what I was referring to. Eudora requires that Quicktime be installed to allow for the use of embedded GIFs.
     
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    That's what I was referring to. Eudora requires that Quicktime be installed to allow for the use of embedded GIFs.

    So maybe I should try again. As I do have Quicktime installed.

    But as you so correctly said ( or implied ) it does depend on what is required as to what is best to use.

    I like what I like. You like what you like, And we both seem to be happy with what we like.

    No problem there whatsoever.

    BillyBob
     
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    PAULDEP

    PAULDEP Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    WOW! This is why I asked the question. I learn more from people comparing programs to one another. I guess it does truly come down to which program works best for the user. I thank you ALL!
    Paul :)
     
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    You are welcome.

    Yes. That is the bottom line.

    BillyBob
     
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    Alternate E-Mail programs

    Check this one out.
    http://www.foxmail.com.cn
    Been using Eudora paid mode for years but no real HTML support. This one has WYSIWYG editor built in and IT'S FREE!
    Seems to work well.
     
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    Hi! I, myself am always looking for a new email program

    myself and one that especially pops up or whatever in the tray for several different accounts (at home). I found a fun one if you're interested! Its IncrediMail! http://www.incredimail.com/?lang=9 It has a lot of fun features and templates. I just started using it a few days ago and so far its fun! The only thing I can't figure out is why it won't store passwords and you have to manually enter them everytime, unlike OE. Maybe with the upgraded (paid) version this isn't a problem. I like it and it's FUN!!! :D

    I'm always looking, so keep me posted!! I have no complaints about OE, I just want to be notified seperately about each account in the tray. EPrompter is another fave but it crashes my computer sometimes (Win2000). I love it, except for that fact...

    Have fun!!

    :p
     
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