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Resolved Deletion of file to large for the Bin.

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by BobbyScot, 2013/08/18.

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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I accidentally erased a file shown as too large for the Recycle Bin to do this task. The file saved in hard drive was the sole saved, as HD is reserved for this file additional saves. I believe a program called Recuva can be used to recover an accidental erase of files. Is this software title recommended or able to do a restore of file contents. In this case no additional or removal was carried out to the file. Is Recuva a reliable software? two versions are offered free or fee registered of £19. Most possible I have lost a file that can not be replaced as I seen at present, appreciate any help from members of this Forum.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    Ideally you STOP using the computer immediately so that temp internet files etc don't write to the drive and make it harder if not impossible to recover the file... Then you place the drive into an external drive and install an app like Recuva on it...

    But yes, Recuva is a recommend application.
     

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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    I agree with Steve - Recuva is probably one of the best freebies, but your experience underlines the absolute necessity of backing up your important data to independent media - independent internal drive, external hard drive, USB stick, etc .....

    A single copy of a file whether it be on your main drive or another drive is vulnerable to drive failure, accidental deletion, etc.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    In this instance the drive is lettered F and is used only for that file as size is indeed large and will grow even more - this was the reason to allocate a 2Tbyte size hard drive. I agree, normally I use five external hard drives on my computer using four to double save software, unfortunately in this case, perhaps foolishly only save once.
    Recuva was started at 11-30pm last night and has only checked five of the seven hard drives 1- internal and 5- external - process still in progress. As I have not used Recuva previously, what is the procedure when it finishes checking for deleted files?
     
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    PeteC

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    It should present you with a list of revoverable files from which you can select those to be recovered.

    Not sure why you are running Recuva on all drives - You posted that the file was saved to a specific drive - that's the drive to run Recuva on.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Now know now that I should have diconnected all external HD's except the one lettered F, as it was the HD in question. Will remember this in future.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Decided to start Recuva check again, with appropriate settings. Box shows that 1446 files (deep check) will take 19 hours to carry out 1-3 scans. Sincerely hope this will find files on now complete blank hard drive.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    You don't need to disconnect other drives. If you are using the Recuva "wizard" (the default), select Cancel to get to the manual menu, then select only the drive or drives you want Recuva to scan.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Recuva software is an excellent piece of software, it found all my deleted files on hard drive and reinstalled all files working as before. I think it is only fair to purchase the full working version, after all the writers of this title, gave up a lot of their time writing and with overheads. My thanks to all who provided me with information.
     
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    Excellent news - now back them up as posted previously :)
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    It maybe worth mentioning, as I previously wrote of my intention to obtain the Professional version of Recuva file rescue software. I am amazed at the speed it recovers deleted files. The free version did a splendid job of recovering my accidental file deletion taking 19 hours to recover, whilst the Professional version carried out the same recovery in under five minutes.
    In my opinion, money well spent.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Huh? How did you determine that? I am not aware of any functional difference. The main difference is free tech support with the pro version.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    I can only comment on my personal experience. Probably, my free version download of VRecuva was corrupt causing delay. Now quicker recovery of future files is worth the money and to be fair the writer of the software deserves a payment, as everyone in modern times appear to think so, something for nothing.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    No argument about being fair to the writer. That's a primary concept of "freeware ". Besides supporting the developers, you usually don't have to deal with ads or other things being foisted on our systems with the paid versions.

    I was just wondering how you came up with 19 hours vs a few minutes. It sounded like you recovered it with the free, then to test the paid version, you deleted it again to see the difference.

    While some free and "trialware" software is crippled or limited unless you pay, I am not aware of Piriform software being that way.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Bill, you are correct, the 19 hours was carried out using the free version of Recuva and as I was really impressed with the result, obtained the paid version. I did try again the free version, it showed estimated times as ten+ hours. I must point out all files were not found or offered for reinstalling. I also use CCleaner Pro. both by Periform and I am most satisfied with their products. In comparison to Auslogic Bootspeed, they appear to bring out a minor upgrade each year, charging a hefty £31 making this software most expensive to have. BootSpeed does appear to remove junk files but not all as CCleaner has proved.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    CCleaner is updated many times per year and is one of my favorite programs. Speecy - another Piriform program is also excellent.

    I am not crazy about Bootspeed - actually, I am not a fan any program that promises to optimize my system. While there is some evidence that registry cleaners can improve sluggish boot times and perhaps (depending on who you listen to) improve some stability issues on systems that have stability problems, there is no evidence Registry defrag programs do any good. And I would never pay for a disk defragger program because the basic defragger built into Windows is more than anyone needs.

    The difference in times (19 hours vs a few minutes) is just to great - IMO - to be due solely to any difference in the free and paid versions. Something else was going on to radically skew your file recovery time-test results. If you had two identical drives that had the exact same image (including the deleted file), then ran free on one drive, the paid version on the other, that might be valid. But when you recovered it the first time, the disk was changed as the tables were updated, and perhaps some fragments were moved. Also, as Steve first indicated above, Windows is constantly using the drive to store temporary files - which, of course, changes the image, file tables, and more.

    In other words, deleting the file again could not undo all the changes made during, or since the previous recovery process.

    Which makes sense. When you delete a file, the file segments are not deleted or erased, the file tables are simply updated to show those storage locations are now available to receive new data - and Windows likely stuffed temporary data in some of them, rendering any previous data in those locations unreadable for recovery.

    Anyway - it is all moot now. I am glad you got it sorted out and for sure, make regular backups.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Just a point on BoostSpeed 6, Auslogics said to update would cost £19.95 as to £31.90, however the final part of the online transaction deducts £31.90. I have contacted Auslogics asking why special price did not apply - not sure that I will receive satisfaction.
    A warning to others.
     
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    BobbyScot

    BobbyScot Geek Member Thread Starter

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    Further to Auslogic SpeedBoost -- Auslogic has now credited the £19.95 and this was carried out without any trouble, in fact were most helpfull and courtious. Certainly a software firm to be trusted and helpful when necessary.
     

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