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  1. 2002/12/07
    Gasolene

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    i hav a LAN with two equivilent PC's
    WinXP PRO

    one access sites very fast
    the other slow, sometimes can't access sites at all (same sites tested on both PC's)
    both use (ADSL)

    only difference is i hav zonealarm on slow PC, BUT IT IS DISABLED!

    What r possibilities??
     
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    using MSCONFIG is disabled all services that zonealarm uses and it is still slow so I RULED OUT zonealarm as a cause.
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    each PC obtains an IP dynamically

    is it possible that there is a problem on the ISP's side and not with the computer??
     

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  4. 2002/12/07
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    No Gasolene! Not an ISP issue.

    Before doing the following are there any other issues on this computer?

    Sounds like a hardware issue to me. How easy is it to switch cables or jumper cables?

    On your hub you have a set of lights for each cable, do the diagnostic lights match the good connection.

    Does the lights on the NIC match the good machine (assuming you have the same NIC in both). If not look in the manual for the NIC and see what the lights mean. On some brands green is good, yellow is error, red no connection.

    Make sure the XP firewall is not active.

    If you have Norton, turn all these off and retest!

    If all check good then, note all settings and verify against the one that is OK.

    From each machine ping the other and your ISP. Compare, are there big differences?

    Ping each NIC from the command prompt use Ping -t -l 1024 127.0.0.1 and let run for a minute. If you get no errors then the NIC is responding properly and is likely OK.

    If these are OK, go to device manager and remove the Network card and let it reinstall when reboot. You have noted the settings to use to reinstall.

    I see your name here often so I know you must be aware of the importance of cleanups, make sure to cleanup all temps and spy/adware. Even if these are not the cause they can hinder trouble shooting!

    Mike
     
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    Gasolene

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    thnx for such detailed responce,

    i thought maybe because my ISP is frequently down and unreliable and i am getting DNS error on slow PC

    computer runs fine, very clean (these problems only started a couple days ago)

    all leds on switch are normal

    both NIC's are green

    it's disabled

    done

    done (both PC's are almost identicle software)

    request time out on both machines when i ping the other
    i could ping the ISP fine on both

    no errors, all repleys within 1 ms

    Done

    I keep very clean system
    I use lavasoft adware,
    use zonealarm
    frequent GRC.com
    use norton virus2003
    i clean system frequently (there are NO processess/applications that i do not know what they are for)
    no spyware ect...
    no third party utilities running
    system tray nothing but norton/msn/zonealarm
    almost new like condition

    note: for all tests firewalls were disabled on both PC's

    1 more note: the slow PC does hav a connection (I'm using it now) it also tests at the same speed using bandwidth test sites
    however some sites have DNS error on slow PC, every site works fine on other PC


    Is it possible that the DNS server is different for each machine???

    each machine has different dynamic IP and has registered mac address



    thnx,
     
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    mflynn

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    Gasolene

    New info that it has worked OK, but has only began this lately

    Did you switch any cables to test?

    Reason that I think is not ISP.
    1. Rare
    2. Your other is ok

    When I asked about settings I ment only the network settings

    Do you share files or printers on these 2 computers? They should ping! If no ping should not share.

    go to command prompt type ipconfig /all on both computers
    how do they differ?
    are these the ip numbers you pinged? If not use these!

    run ipconfig /displaydns on both
    how do they differ?

    You may should print the results above.

    finally only on the problem computer
    ipconfig /flushdns
    ipconfig /renew
    ipconfig /registerdns

    reboot and test

    get back

    mike
     
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    And another thing I'd try - assuming you have a PCI card NIC rather than built in:

    power down and remove the NIC. When you replace it, make sure it is seated firmly and all the way down. Maybe compare the amount of connector you can see with the other PC.

    It is possible the card just isn't seated fully or also that the mother board is mounted slightly off and something is physically preventing the NIC from going in all the way.

    They are much worse about acting up than other types of cards.
     
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    Gasolene

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    No, machines are on different floors

    Reason that I think is not ISP.
    1. Rare
    2. Your other is ok

    Network settings should be almsot identicle

    Yes, I share files/printer and this works fine
    I can share files between machines with no problem

    IP numbers are the ones I used to test
    gateway is different xxx.xxx.80.1 (problem machine)
    xxx.xxx.240.1 (good machine)

    C:\Documents and Settings\Admin>ipconfig /displaydns

    Check next post, text limit
     
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    Gasolene

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    C:\Document and settings\Admin>ipconfig /displaydns

    Windows IP Configuration

    1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa
    Record Type . . . . . : 12
    Time To Live . . . . : 577632
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    PTR Record . . . . . : localhost


    localhost
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : localhost
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 577632
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1

    Windows IP Configuration

    1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa
    Record Type . . . . . : 12
    Time To Live . . . . : 577632
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    PTR Record . . . . . : localhost


    localhost
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : localhost
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 577632
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1

    C:\Documents and Settings\XXXXXXX>ipconfig /displaydns

    Windows IP Configuration

    adres.internet.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : adres.internet.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    ads.x10.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : ads.x10.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    s12.sitemeter.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : s12.sitemeter.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.adserver.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.adserver.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.radiate.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.radiate.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    ads.tripod.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : ads.tripod.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.cash2002.de
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.cash2002.de
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.valuesponsor.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.valuesponsor.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    z0.extreme-dm.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : z0.extreme-dm.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    s0.bluestreak.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : s0.bluestreak.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.hit-parade.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.hit-parade.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    ads08.focalink.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : ads08.focalink.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.adultclicks.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.adultclicks.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    ad.fr.doubleclick.net
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : ad.fr.doubleclick.net
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    realads.realmedia.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : realads.realmedia.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    adimages.go.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : adimages.go.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    van.ads.link4ads.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : van.ads.link4ads.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.toys-galleries.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.toys-galleries.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.cash4banner.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : www.cash4banner.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    ad2.looksmart.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : ad2.looksmart.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    ads.cdfreaks.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : ads.cdfreaks.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    desktop.grokster.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : desktop.grokster.com
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live . . . . : 602093
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 127.0.0.1


    www.paypopup.com
    ----------------------------------------
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    not sure what this means
     
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    mflynn

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    Not so clean as you thought!

    Read this!

    http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan2002/nf2002013_5627.htm

    1. Uninstall it
    2. Search HD and delete all it finds in ref to grokster
    3. download the latest adaware def
    4. Get spybot also

    Spyware and adware removal
    http://security.kolla.de/index.php?lang=en&page=download

    http://www.lavasoftusa.com/downloads.html

    5. D/L Regecleaner use it to delete Grokster use its tools-registry-do them all. Also use the startup list to kill any grokster.

    RegCleaner http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/regcleaner.shtml

    Download all the above but don't run yet. After d/l and install reboot to safe mode and run them.

    Then boot back to full and do an online trojan scan first thing.

    http://www.anti-trojan.net/at.asp?l=en&t=onlinecheck


    Mike

    get back
     
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  11. 2002/12/07
    mflynn

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    Forgot

    last thing in safe mode before reboot

    command prompt ipconfig /flushdns

    then in full mode before the online trojan

    ipconfig /flushdns (yes again)
    ipconfig /renew
    ipconfig /registerdns

    Mike
     
  12. 2002/12/08
    mflynn

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    Good night and good luck Gasolene.

    I'll check on you in the morning with coffee!

    After you get cleaned up you need to verify the gateway is the same as the working one.

    Mike
     
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    OK! Gasolene!

    Whats the word? Thunderbird?

    7:40 am with coffee, ready to roll. Smile!

    Mike
     
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  14. 2002/12/08
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    late night...

    removed kazaa (never had grogster or any other file share on this system)

    removed all kazaa reg entries

    safemode..
    I ran spybot, regcleaner (ran all clean reg tools), adaware
    spybot found 4 trojans and cleaned them
    then ipconfig /flushdns

    i ran anti-trojan...
    here are trojan search results
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    Anti-Trojan Version 5.5.405
    Trojan search Begin of search: 12/8/2002 2:45:19 AM - End of search: 12/8/2002 3:38:52 AM

    Portscan: (found known ports)

    Port 1033 open. Possible trojans. NetSpy

    Registry-Scan:

    Drive-Scan:

    Number of scanned files: 67007
    Number of found trojan files: 0

    All open ports on your system:

    Port 7 open.
    Port 9 open.
    Port 13 open.
    Port 17 open.
    Port 19 open.
    Port 135 open.
    Port 139 open.
    Port 445 open.
    Port 1025 open.
    Port 1026 open.
    Port 1027 open.
    Port 1030 open.
    Port 1231 open.
    Port 4205 open.
    Port 4243 open.
    Port 4891 open.
    Port 9814 open.
     
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    Gasolene

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    k, i just ran a flushdns, renew, register...

    rebooted, and gateway is the same, and i still get a list of adservers in 'displaydns'


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    another question, anti-trojan says i have 18 open ports, but grc.com says all stealth?

    it also says i have an open trojan port but no trojan was found, does this mean it was removed?

    i just ran anti-trojan again, and it still says
    trojan port 1033 Spynet is open
     
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    Well! LOL!

    NetSpy in both its incarnations are bad.

    If it is the trojan it allows remote control of your computer.
    The other NetSpy is like a spy, a parent or boss would use to spy on what happens on a computer. May in fact be the same.

    Norton's latest defs clean this. So update and do full scan.

    You can for sure soon turn your Firewall back on!

    Did you do this also insafe mode:

    last thing in safe mode before reboot

    command prompt ipconfig /flushdns

    then in full mode before the online trojan

    ipconfig /flushdns (yes again)
    ipconfig /renew
    ipconfig /registerdns


    If so run:

    ipconfig /displaydns
    see if turds are gone

    If so how does the system work now?

    If Ok reinstate the firewall and virus scanner.

    After firewall is back in, redo the Trojan scan you shold see a diff in open ports.

    Mike
     
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    Update norton

    download and install the following but do not run

    http://www.agnitum.com/products/tauscan/

    then go to safe mode and do both norton and tau

    again after cleaning flush all before reboot

    Mike
     
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    i booted in safemode again and ran

    i ran norton (latest definitions) and found nothing
    i ran anti-trojan again and it found nothing but open ports
    i ran spy-bot and found nothing

    then flushdns

    the started in normal mode

    flushdns
    renew
    registerdns

    rebooted and still have a list of adservers when i do a displaydns

    i enabled firewall/nortonvirus
    rescanned using anti-trojan and still have 20 open ports
    (though grc.com says all ports are in stealth mode)
    ----------------------------------------
    Initializing Anti-Trojan 5.5.405

    Begin of search: 12/8/2002 1:36:33 PM

    Portscan:

    Port 7 open.
    Port 9 open.
    Port 13 open.
    Port 17 open.
    Port 19 open.
    Port 135 open.
    Port 139 open.
    Port 445 open.
    Port 1025 open.
    Port 1026 open.
    Port 1028 open.
    Port 1029 open.
    Port 1030 open.
    Port 1034 open.
    Port 1046 open.
    Port 4884 open.
    Port 4908 open.
    Port 4946 open.
    Port 4949 open.
    Port 8243 open.

    End of search: 12/8/2002 1:45:20 PM

    Finished searching.
    Congratulations! No trojans have been found in your system.

    -------------------------------------------------
    i am downloading tauscan right now
     
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    Gasolene

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    ran tuascan in safemode
    tuascan found nothing
    then flushdns

    reboot in normal

    still have list of adservers
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    1 more note: using ipconfig /registerdns

    C:\>ipconfig /registerdns

    Windows IP Configuration

    Registration of the DNS resource records for all adapters of this computer has b
    een initiated. Any errors will be reported in the Event Viewer in 15 minutes..

    C:\>
    ----------------------------------
    I checked event viewer and found nothing regarding dns OR ipconfig
     
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    It is worth the time to do tau! But this should do it.

    Find your hosts file, paste it back to me I will edit it to block these adservers and paste it back to you. That will take care of them!

    I am not sure how they are getting back on.

    You need to check your add/remove for anything unusual and uninstall anything you don't know about or will never use just to be sure.

    Then browse c:\Program files for anything that is not in add/remove or that you don't know about!

    Did you read the link about grokster in detail and search for the files it mentioned and delete them. If not do so!

    Mike
     
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    Gasolene

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    i found this host file online, can i use this?
    http://www.smartin-designs.com/downloads/hosts_127001.txt

    here's what my host file looks like
    ---------------------------------------------
    127.0.0.1 localhost
    # KaZaA related:
    127.0.0.1 desktop.kazaa.com
    127.0.0.1 www.altnetp2p.com
    127.0.0.1 alpha.kazaa.com
    127.0.0.1 shop.kazaa.com
    127.0.0.1 www.bonzi.com
    127.0.0.1 www.brilliantdigital.com
    127.0.0.1 www.b3d.com
    127.0.0.1 media.altnet.com
    127.0.0.1 www.altnet.com
    127.0.0.1 dev.bde.com.au
    # Adservers and other crappy sites:
    127.0.0.1 123banners.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.adsmart.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.ca.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.de.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.es.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.fr.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.free6.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.it.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.iwin.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.jp.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.kr.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.linkexchange.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.linksynergy.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.nl.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.no.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.preferences.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.se.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.sma.punto.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.trafficmp.com
    127.0.0.1 ad.uk.doubleclick.net
    127.0.0.1 ad.webprovider.com
    127.0.0.1 ad08.focalink.com
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