Classic view and folders

willem07 · 2008/09/28

Somehow I cannot figure it. Running on XP Pro and everything set to Classic view.
When I try to save a pic from the Internet it opens My Pictures folder in the Thumbnails mode?
When I try to d/l and save a file it opens in the List mode?
I only want to view in Details mode. Have tried various settings inside Folder Options but no luck.
What am I missing here? Any suggestions most welcome.

goddez1 · 2008/10/02

Hi willem07,

I'm just doing a post drop in to add a "link and go ". I am googling another problem and happened upon this post which looks like it thoroughly covers "folder view" settings and making them stick. I remembered your post and thought you might find this useful. You may wish to give it look it over and give it shot. Please let me know if your fix is found in the info provided.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/160807.html
This write up took a lot of work, so to give credit where credit is due, the information was compiled by,
arcadesdude-ga
Google Answers Researcher

I know that Windows is a pane sometimes. (a pane, get it?) All punning
aside, problems like your's are common and are often caused by strange
Microsoft bugs or annoyances. This problem of Explorer not remembering
its settings is a common problem but one with multiple possible
solutions.

Although it is possible a program messed with the settings in the
registry (the place where these folder settings are stored), it is
more likely that you changed the view in one window (and wanted to
change only that window) and did not remember about it and Windows
changed all windows like that because a setting was changed or not
set.

But whatever went wrong, this problem can be fixed by following the
steps below. Note that you should follow them in order because that
will affect the outcome of the solution. If these steps do not work
then please "Request Answer Clarification" and tell me what happened
(or happens) and I'll do my best to help you fix the folders problem.
I am confident, however, that the walkthrough below will solve your
"freaky folder" dilemma.

The [possible and most likely] Solution:

We'll check the settings currently that deal with the folders'
settings. This will let us know if when we tell the computer to change
them later to the correct settings, that they actually get changed.

Click on My Computer (on the desktop)
Click C:
Click View
Click Folder Options
Click the View tab

In the advanced settings section, scroll down until you see "Remember
each folder's view settings ". Write down if that setting is checked or
not.

Now let's check on one more setting.

Click Start
Click Run
Type Regedit
Click OK (or hit Enter)
Click the arrow next to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Scroll down to find Software.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to find CLASSES.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to Folder and click on that folder.

On the right-hand side of that window there should be a key (a
setting) called:

EditFlags

Write down its value. (Its value would be something like d2 01 00 00).

Now let's change one setting if it exists.

Click Start
Click Run
Type Regedit
Click OK (or hit Enter)
Click the arrow next to HKEY_LOCAL_USER
Scroll down to find Software.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to find Microsoft.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to find Windows.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to find Current Version.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to find Policies.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to Explorer and click on that folder.

In the right-hand side scroll down and look for a key (setting)
called:

NoSaveSettings

If you find it then click on it until it turns blue (is highlighted)
and then press the Delete key on your keyboard. Then click on YES when
it asks you if you are sure you want to delete this value. This is
safe to delete. It is a setting that might be causing your folders to
not save their settings when windows exits.

( Registry Guide for Windows - Disable Save Settings
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/152/ )

Keep that paper where you wrote these settings down so you can check
them later after you follow the steps below.

Now we're going to fix it (hopefully). I've had this very problem in
the past and learned that (in my case) the problem was a setting not
checked (that "Remember each folder's view settings" checkbox). But
that is only one possible problem with the folders' settings and
looking around the internet, there are a couple of things that could
cause this. So we'll act on the basis that it could be any or all of
these things and try to fix them all to your liking.

Searching for other possible causes to this problem, I saw on this
page here:

JSI Tip 4782 (Like Current Folder Setting in Windows)
http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBJ/tip4700/rh4782.htm

That settings might not be saved if two instances of explorer are
running. You can check if two instances of explorer are running at the
same time by doing this:

Press the keys Ctrl (Control) and Alt and hold them down and then
press Delete once. The Taskmanager/Close Program box should pop up.
Scroll down in this list and look for:

Explorer (NOT IExplore).

If you ONLY SEE ONE then CLICK CANCEL.
If you SEE MORE THAN ONE then click on one of them (you choose it
doesn't matter which) and it will turn blue (be highlighted), then
click End Task (or End Program). Now wait about 20 seconds. If another
box pops up in that time click End Task in that window. The second
instance of Explorer will be closed.

The next part will undo the remember folders setting to reset it.

Click on My Computer (on the desktop)
Click C:
Click View
Click Folder Options
Click the View tab
Uncheck "Remember each folder's view settings" (if it is already
checked).
Click on Reset All Folders
Click YES
Click OK

Click View
Click Folder Options
Click the View tab
Check "Remember each folder's view settings "
Click on Reset All Folders
Click YES
Click OK

Click View
Click List
Click View
Click Folder Options
Click the View tab
Click Like Current Folder
Click YES
Click OK

Now when you go to close this window do this:

Hold down the Ctrl (Control) key and while still holding it down, use
the mouse to click on the X to close the window. This is telling
Explorer to save the settings of this window.

( Annoyances.org (Question about 'Set Defaults in Explorer')
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1027192061 )

Now Restart the computer (Start, Shutdown, Restart, OK).

This should force Windows to remember the folders' settings. Some
folders like C:\Windows or C:\Windows\System will probably require you
to click Show Files and then View and Uncheck As Web Page to get these
folders back to the default list view. That is because we reset all
folders and then told them how we wanted them to appear. You should
only have to click Show Files once because it should now be set to
save the settings.

You can now test the folders out to see if they saved the settings.

Click Start
Click Run
Type C:
Click OK (or hit Enter)

If it is showing as a list format instead of the large icons then that
folder's settings are saved.
Now let's try some other ones

Click Start
Click Run
Type C:\Windows
Click OK (or hit Enter)

Click Show Files and then View As a Web Page if needed and see if this
is showing as a list instead of icons.

Click Start
Click Run
Type C:\Windows\TEMP
Click OK (or hit Enter)

All of these folders should be showing in your preferred list format
now instead of the large icons.

Now click on My Documents (on the desktop) and it too should be
showing correctly.

If all of these folders DO show up as list format then ALL of your
folders should show up as list format because the setting was
successfully changed. That means it worked and your done! (You won't
have to do the following if that is the case).

Otherwise if any of these folders are NOT showing up in the list
format were going to check on the settings and compare them with the
ones we wrote down earlier to see if any change has occurred. (If
there is no change then we'll have to manually edit them in the
registry and try that).

So if it did NOT work then do this:

Click on My Computer (on the desktop)
Click C:
Click View
Click Folder Options
Click the View tab

In the advanced settings section, scroll down until you see "Remember
each folder's view settings ". Write down if that setting is checked or
not. Mark the new setting you wrote down as the "new setting ". (This
is to distinguish it from the earlier setting that you wrote down.)

Click Start
Click Run
Type Regedit
Click OK (or hit Enter)
Click the arrow next to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Scroll down to find Software.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to find CLASSES.
Click the arrow next to that.
Scroll down to Folder and click on that folder.

On the right-hand side of that window there should be a key (a
setting) called:

EditFlags

Write down its value and mark it as the "new setting ".

Compare these settings and then "Request Answer Clarification" and in
that type the settings in and write down what is happening so I can
help you further.

I hope this helps solve your Windows folder annoyance and if anything
is unclear or if the above doesn't work as expected then please
"Request Answer Clarification" before you "Rate This Answer" and I'll
do my best to help you any way I can.

arcadesdude-ga
Google Answers Researcher

Further information / Useful links:

Registry Guide for Windows - Disable Save Settings
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/152/

JSI Tip 4782 (Like Current Folder Setting in Windows)
http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBJ/tip4700/rh4782.htm

Annoyances.org (Question about 'Set Defaults in Explorer')
http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/t1027192061
Click to expand...

I hope it helps.

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Your "my pictures" folder and downloading into this may require additional advice but as I said I am busy with another post and am only doing a drive by. Perhaps when I am sure you haven't given up on a response to this post and will be back to it, this part of your issue can be addressed. Bye... :0

willem07 · 2008/10/02

Hi goddez1,

Well, amazing the time you spent in assisting, for that alone you deserve a 11 out of 10. Giving each step meticulously to get to the correct keys in the Registry.

I did go through all yr steps just to ensure I've not missed it before during all my past efforts:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.Folder = EditFlags not present
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer = NoSaveSettings not present
Windows Task Manager, Processes = only one explorer.exe present

Actually this issue has been on my puter for some months and I only started this thread because the aggravation level grew too high

Since 3 days ago I've been googling seriously and it seems that what I'm requesting cannot be done by XP, it is a no-no option. Something about Pane default settings.
Explorer is opening correctly as to my settings selected via Folder Options but it is the loading and saving panel which are settings in comdig32.dll.
Now I'm talking with hind site which is always easy.
After I tested a prog named File-Ex I wondered how someone could achieve this but their is no Registry hack freely available. By chance and lots of googling I discovered FileOpenPatcher.
It makes a back-up of comdig32.dll and replaces it with a "cracked" version. It solved my problem 100%.

Once again thank you for yr effort and input, highly appreciated.

goddez1 · 2008/10/03

Hi again willem07,

I really appreciate you for updating this post with a fix for "save and save as" dialogue box view. I didn't read carefully enough to fully understand that it was this specific dialogue box that was driving you crazy. I'm sure members may find your solution great. Again, Thank you for sharing it.

As for the writeup provided in my previous thread, that was the work of another person named, "arcadesdude-ga ". Understanding the work that went into this, I have no wish to take credit for that hard work so I want to make sure I extend a humble thank you to him or her, where ever they are.

As for myself you are most welcome. I am happy to see you found your fix.

--------For the Archives---------------------------
Some have tried this:
Open a common dialog box, change the view to the one you want, and then
> hit Ctrl/Cancel. But have found it doesn't stick. Why? See below...

The common dialog boxes open in List view by default in all
but certain folders. Unfortunately you can't make a view change
for a particular folder persistent. You can switch from List to
Detailed view when you open a file, for example, but the next
time you open a file, you'll be back at List view again.

Two choices that work, "to force or set details view in save and save as dialogue boxes " and make it stick:

1]Kelly suggested "File-Ex ". It is not free but perhaps as a trial software it will allow for the change that will stick even when trial has expired. I know nothing about it but am only expanding on information. See:

Solution #85, Set Detail View for all Folders Open/Save As (Free Trial Software)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Or more dirrectly:
http://www.cottonwoodsw.com

2]Free
FileOpenPatcher from Elm�Soft enlarges the Windows Open File dialog (in Comdlg32.dll).

FileOpenPatcher (Scroll down page)
Info: http://www.netcult.ch/elmue/ElmueSoft-en.htm
Download Link 1: ftp://ftp.netcult.ch/mirror/elmue/FileOpenPatcher.zip
Download Link 2: http://electronix.ch/ptbsync/FileOpenPatcher.zip
Click to expand...

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