chkdsk /f gives BSOD

PC is running XP Pro SP1 plus all updates - recently it has started to freeze at random with no errors reported in Event Viewer.

Wondered if it might be temperature related - very hot in UK at present - by our standards - 30 deg C! CPU was running up to 67 deg C (normally mid 50's). Cleaned out case - dedusted cpu heatsink and fan and ran with case open. This cooled it all down, but did not cure the problem.

Having searched the board decided to run chkdsk /f before taking on board one or two other suggestions.

The chkdsk report flashes onto the screen and before I have time to read it - scarcely see it - and the whole thing bsod's.

Message is:

Stop: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF7D7D51D, 0xFC6EC38,
0xF7C6E938)

Fs_Rec.SYS Address F7D7D51D base at F7D7D000 date stamp 3b7d8361

Ran sfc /scannow as a system file was involved - File checker asked for CD - put in slipstreamed CD - Win said wrong CD and then proceeded to run. Gave no report when it finished.

Run the regcleaners (including RegSeeker) regularly plus Spybot and AdAware - Diskeeper has looked after defragmentation happily for months. NAV, but no other Norton software, ZoneAlarm Pro.

I have a sneaky feeling that the drive may be getting a bit flakey - or it's time to do a clean install of XP - was intending to do that anyway when SP2 arrives.

M/c is Asus A7V333 with AMD Athlon 1.53 Ghz plus 1 gig RAM. Drive in question is 40Gb with 7 partitions NTFS.

Any ideas?

TIA

 

Hi Mike,

British born and bred - but I love the States - have made 7 trips to the Southwest - Az, Ut, NM, Nv and Ca to photograph your wonderful landscape. Lots of pics in my website - see profile.

Thanks for your rapid response -

1. Will have to wait until tomorrow when I can buy a fan - it's rarely hot enough over here to warrant one!

2. Will do that tomorrow morning first thing.

 

Hi Mike,

I hate problems I can't solve so allowed the m/c to cool down, restarted in Safe Mode and ran chkdsk /r - had to reboot to run it - did I do right here?

Similar senario, basically the same bsod screen :

Stop: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF7D8551D, 0xF7C6EC38,
0xF7C6E938)

Fs_Rec.SYS Address F7D8551D base at F7D85000 date stamp 3b7d8361

Hit reset - during bootup an XP 'dos' screen appeared with the message ...... the volume is clean. This reboot wws very slow.

Shut down - cold reboot - speed as normal.

After this exercise CPU 49 deg C, Mobo 36 deg C

Any further thoughts?

 

Repeated the exercise - this time managed to capture the chkdsk message using my digital camera on continuous before the bsod came up. Just a single frame, but that's all that is needed

Message read:

Windows has checked the file system and can find no problems.

8193118 KB total disk space
5325992 KB in 47870 files
15028 KB in 2905 indexes
0 KB in bad sectors
91850 KB in use by the system
37888 KB occupied by the log file
2760248 KB available on disk

4096 bytes in each allocation unit
2048279 total allocation units on disk
690062 allocation units available on disk

Windows has finished checking your disk
Please wait while your computer restarts

Immediate bsod as before

CPU 50/122 deg C/F, mobo 37/98 deg C/F

 

Pete!

I´m impressed by Your smart move to use a digital camera on continuous to capture the "flick" on the screen ...... ......
I almost stared myself blind to catch the "DMI PooL Data" on my screen ...... ......

Christer

 

Christer,

Doesn't the Pause key work during POST?- certainly doesn't in chkdsk in that pale blue environment which is neither POST or Windows otherwise I'd have caught it that way - eventually

Edit - yes it does.

 

Pete,

I didn´t know that the boot sequence could be paused. However, it doesn´t require knowledge only but a portion of luck too. The third attempt was at the right moment.
After the black "Windows XP Professional" screen comes on, it can no longer be paused.

We learn something every day ...... ...... thanks!

 

Mike.

The answers to the questions you posed :

Have you used Disk management to assign or change drive letters. No

Or added a new drive of some type? No

Perhaps a card reader? No

Or installed any new software or HW recently? Yes - BigFix -Norton Ghost - RegSeeker - in that order. HW - No

BTW - never run chkdsk before so can't give any background on results below.

So:

1. Replaced fs_rec.sys and ran chkdsk via Safe Mode - same bsod

2. Vaguely remembered something in Ghost re. assigning a drive letter to CD drive in Dos. Un-installed Ghost, ran all the regcleaners, etc. Repeated chkdsk - same bsod.

3. Ran chkdsk on my laptop - NTFS - XP Pro SP1 - all updates except yesterday's - exactly the same reult > same bsod

4. Ran chkdsk on my standby m/c - Fat 32 multiple boot to XP, Me, 98SE, on the XP partition - XP Pro SP1 - no other updates and No bsod!!

The obvious conclusion is that one of the updates since SP1 is the source of the problem - but is it the right conclusion? And the occasional freezing and other occasional bsods may/may not be related to this.

Off to the shops to look for a fan;current temps cpu 49/120, mobo 38/100 - no freezes today. Uptime ~ 2hrs.

 

Mike,

Cooler here today, but fan now in action - will rerun chkdsk, but don't really anticipate any change in results. cpu holding steady at 41/105, mobo at 26/78.

Other than the results of chkdsk and the occasional freeze - only in the hot weather, so we can probably put that one to rest - m/c is basically OK. Occasional bsods recently - days apart generally. Last ones which I noted were - most recent first :

MULTIPLE_IRP_COMPLETE REQUESTS Stop 0x00000044

simply Stop 0x0000007F with no message

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA Stop 0x00000050

Didn't note the other details.

NB Pagefile is 2Gb on dedicated partition.

As you say, time to back off a few updates.

Really appreciate your help - will post back later with some results.

 

Phew!! What a day!

Removed all the Windows updates shown in Add/Remove - 19 in all. Removed in batches of 3 and then ran chkdsk from Safe Mode after each batch.

No Windows updates left except IE Q818529 and OE Q330994 and the bsod after chkdsk continues.

So it doesn't appear to be an update problem - whatever it is is common to this m/c and my laptop, which is by no means a mirror of my desktop and has few apps installed.

On slight quirk - after removing one update BigFix, which has laid dormant and not advised of a single Windows update since it was installed in June, chirped up with that update, even though I was not on line. I think BigFix is for the chop.

m/c has run fine otherwise, fan in operation, but it is much cooler here today and now raining.

My next thought is to Repair XP from the install disk and not from the slipstreamed cd, run chkdsk and then install SP1, run chkdsk again and seewhat happens.

Would you go along with that?

 

Mike,

Camera (EOS 10D) has 1GB Compact Flash card and is connected as and when to download images via Canon supplied software.

Will run Repair as posted and post back.

 

Repair was not such a good idea - hung at first reboot. Will not boot at all now - not normally, last known good or safe mode.

Looks like a format is the only solution.

 

Mike - 'fraid so

Formatted - XP re-installed plus SP1 and ISP. That's all so far - and chkdsk works fine - so far

I was using the second repair option - hung at first restart. No way would it boot so I was unable to access any restore points. I had a ghost image on another partition, but had uninstalled Norton Ghost yesterday. Must be getting tired as I only remembered the ghost recovery disk I made after I had reformatted. Anyway, if there was something iffy with the system I would have restored the same problem. The fact that it failed to boot on the repair must have some significance?

All data on other partitions so no problem there - and backed up.

I'm not too bothered - apart from the hassle of re-installing the software and remembering all the tweaks that were set up, I had a feeling over the past few weeks that a format and re-install would be beneficial as the m/c did not feel 'right'. At least it will have gotten rid of a lot of garbage!

The camera was not connected when I got the error - it is only connected when I need to download images. The error was there before I downloaded the snapshot of the chkdsk screen - and after. The camera was connected no more than 2-3 mins. Likewise the zip is only plugged in occasionally and was unplugged, but it is a thought.

Thanks again for your help - and concern. Will keep you posted. Out most of the day tomorrow so won't get back to it until later.