can LAN DSL and dialup service exist on same computer

Though I have been working on computers for 20 years, internet connection service confuses me. My main internet connection in Michigan is comcast.net. When in FL as I now am, I use DSL because Comcast is not available. I am able to access my Comcast mail directly at Comcast webmail. Embarq DSL here in FL provides me no webmail access. So, by mistake I opened Outlook express and all of the mail I was holding at the Comcast webpage downloaded to OE and now I cannot forward any of it.

So I signed up for peoplepc dialup in addition to Embarq DSL hoping to add the peoplepc mail address to OE, and therefore be able to use OE while in FL. Peoplepc took over my internet access and DSL did not function properly.

Can my laptop handle both DSL and peoplepc dialup? I have subsequently add/removed peoplepc but would like t be able to use it in Outlook Express but would like to use DSL for web browsing. Is this possible?

Bev Sampson

 

Yes, although I'm not going to encourage you to try using both at the same time - your laptop isn't going to handle that. You can re-install your dial-up software and then, go to the Control Panel and to Internet Options and click on connections - that should show both your DSL lan setting and your dial-up. Navigate to properties in the dial-up and select Never for connection. You can make a shortcut to this connection and put it on the desktop, then toggle the setting under properties as necessary to use either your dial-up or your DSL.

 

You should be able to do it. Try this. First ensure that IE is set to never dial a connection. In IE, click tools>internet options>connections and set it to never dial a connection. OE shares this setting however so you then have to go into OE, click tools>accounts>mail tab. Then double click on the Peoplepc account. In the window that opens, click the connection tab, put a check in the box next to "always connect to this account using" and select the dialup connection. This should override the default settings in IE. Hopefully this will get you what you want.

If this works for you, there may be a down side to it but it should be easily solved. If the two accounts use the same identity, you'll probably have to set OE to not send and receive at startup and then check the account manually by clicking tools>send and receive and then the dialup account. I'm thinking OE would want to check both accounts when you first start OE if you don't do this. I'm not really sure. I used to have a similar setup years ago (cable and dialup) but it's been quite a while and I don't remember if that was a problem or not. So, hopefully this will work for you.

 

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sampson1

Email and multiply ISP's can be a pain.
When work / travel / residence constantly put you in different ISP area's, Web based mail has many advantages. Why, because you are not controlled by the ISP email server. Web based email comes in two flavors. Types which are primarily access through a website, example Yahoo and Hotmail (can be accessed via email POP3 accounts, but limited features). I prefer the other type, IMAP accounts. They offer website access plus email client control (example Outlook / Thunderbird). Most of your normal email needs can be managed via your email client. You can receive / send / reply / forward emails. You can also add / delete folders, set up filters to direct / managed your emails. The nice advantage to email client/IMAP email accounts you can access your email from your desktop at Michigan or Florida and/or your Notebook while on the road ... all while using your favorite email client. In addition you can use anyone's computer in the world and access your email via the WEB view. Their are number of sites which offer free or paid IMAP email accounts. One I have been testing for a year is AOL (aim domain), which is FREE. SO far, this service has been very good. I just noticed, AOL offers AOL domain email AND personalized domain email.... such a deal. To try this service out, just sign up, setup your Outlook for an IMAP type account. Before you give out this new email address, go to your ISP email accounts and choose an option to "Forward a copy of all received email" to this new email account. You can then monitor your email through this account. If all of your email gets their in good shape, start fine tuning OL per folder/filters to your liking. Once you are comfortable, you can then decide to use this as your primary account and switch your friends over to this account. As most of us do, have at least TWO primary accounts. One guarded account which is offered to trusted folks and a second account to give out like candy (this one will eventually get spammed to death).

 

You might want to take a look at BAMNET for limited use dialup. I have been using it for several years and it works fine for me. It is prepaid similar to a phone card and requires neither a contract nor software. You pay for what you use with no expiration. Rates are 1 cent per minute if you are near a local dialup number and 6 cents a minute for 800 dialup.

All that is required is to set up your account with BAMNET with an initial amount - usually $20. Then set up a dialer on your computer. There is no software to install. When you dial BAMNET and get connected, you are on the internet. Two considerations - 1)You have to remember to close your connection when you are through (you can set the dialer to shut off) and 2) You have to use web based e-mail - but this apparently no problem for you as you are already using a web based e-mail. And by the way, I don't work for or have any connection with BAMNET.

http:/www.bamnet.com

Added Comment: I also use BAMNET on my primary computers whenver our high speed ISP is down for any reason.

 

Thank you to all for your excellent suggestions and help. This looks like a wonderful site and I have bookmarker it.

My solution is as follows: Embarq DSL is operational and functions well. I was able to speak with a rep. at peoplepc, a gentleman who was very knowledgeable, patient and courteous. Since I had subscribed to peoplepc, he helped me configure a peoplepc mailbox in OE. I had deleted all peoplepc dialup software and he advised that with dsl I did not need dialup software but that as a subscriber, the peoplepc mailbos would function well in OE. He further showed me how to import all the emails that were stuck in the Comcast OE mailbox to ppc mailbox. Now I can forward them as I wish.

I posted my solution as information for any who may be interested.

Thank you again for your help.

Bev

 

This is a followup. DSL and peoplepc mailbox in Outlook Express are working great. However Comcast.net mailbox produces socket error 11004, Error No. 0x800CCC0D whenever I try to forward or sent an email using comcast in OE. I have referenced this error on the internet and I guess it is a microsoft proplem. Has anyone else experienced this and if yes, is there a resolution?

Bev

 

That isn't a Microsoft problem at all - your comcast mail is configured to use comcast as the mail sever - no? I believe you would either have to configure comcast mail to use peoplepc's SMTP server or send it from your other account by clicking on the radio bar to the right of the mail account name and selecting the working outbound account.

Yes it should be very fixable.

 

Thank you Rockster for your reply. Yes comcast is configured to use comcast smtp and peoplepc is also configured to use smtp for outgoing mail. Comcast through OE will receive mail but will not send or forward. Peoplepc using OE will do both. So, I guess I will just import any comcast emails that I want to respond to or forward to peoplepc and send from there. Can I have two accounts, Comcast and peoplepc both using different smtp for outgoing. Seems like therein lies the problem.

Reading on the internet there is some talk about firewalls contributing to this error I am receiving when trying to send or forward from the comcast account. Also there is some suggestion that because this laptop was part of my 2 computer network in MI, with my desktop in MI being the primary this could be a contributing factor to the error 0x800CCC0D.

Bev

 

Just in case you missed it above, configure comcast mail to use peoplepc's SMTP server. In other words, put whatever you have in your peoplepc SMTP server field into the Comcast SMTP Server field ( a copy) and make sure you use your peoplepc account name for outgoing mail in the Comcast account. Leave incoming mail (POP3 account) just as it is - no change there.

 

Thanks rockster. I will post the result when reset comcast outgoing mail which will be in an hour or so.

Bev

 

Totally confused.

By mistake you opened OE n it promptly downloaded your mail. Yet couldn’t forward it.
Sounds like OE not set up right for outgoing mail.

For Comcast – open up OE – click on tools – accounts – highlight your normal Comcast mail account - select properties – Servers Tab.

Does it say:
Incoming mail (POP3): mail.comcast.net
Outgoing mail (SMTP): smtp.comcast.net

Down below is account name and password – helps to check: remember password.


Should have worked – whether dial-up, dsl or cable. Only difference is if on dial-up have to sign on and access internet FIRST before using OE.

Do it all the time. Laptop travels between wireless, cable, dsl or dial-up – depending on where I’m at. Still use same e-mail accounts.

As for web browsing speed. Depends on connection you used to access internet. Dial-up, dsl or cable just 3 ways to access internet all with different speeds.

As for signing on to dial-up and at same time on broadband. Never tried it. Just had access to 1 or other. No idea which connection IE would use. Interesting - pls let know what happens

 

rockster, I did exactly as you suggested, in the main identity, mail.comcast.net, changed to pop.peoplepc.com. Also in the main identity Comcast, changed smtp to smtpauth.peoplepc.com. This produced a menu with the account listed as peoplepc.com and requested me to login. login fields using comcast id and pass. were filled out for me and when I clicked ok, the screen refreshed and did nothing.

So the setup is in FL, DSL service to internet, peoplepc setup as second identity in OE, Comcast is main identity. Peoplepc software is not loaded and the only internet connection I have is DSL lan. Peoplepc incoming and outgoing mail, pop3 and smtp work fine. Comcast, only incoming pop3 works this is the error message I receive when I try to send from comcast or forward.

The host'smtpauth.comcast.net' could not be found. Please verify that you have entered the server name correctly. Account:'mail.comcast.net', Server 'smtpauth.comcast.net', Protocol:SMTP, Prt:587, Secure(SSL): No, Socket Error 11004 Error Number: 0x800CCC0D.

So, I give up. OE is receiving mail to comcast main identity but will not send or forward. OE is receiving, forwarding and sending mail from peoplepc identity. I will use the alternate identity, peoplepc to send and forward, or just use comcast webpage for comcast email rather than OE.

Thank you all for trying.

Bev

 

Bev

Don’t give up.
Of course Comcast server couldn’t be found for outgoing mail.

Read previous post.
Outgoing mail (SMTP) should simply say: smtp.comcast.net

Don’t know where smtpAUTH came from "“ get rid of auth part

 

sampson1

Can only speak from using Thunderbird per setting up SMTP (Outgoing Server).
For 2 different accounts, you can have different SMTP, but requires the following ...
Delete any reference to "default" outgoing server names.
Must have each of the "unique" names listed, example....
SMTP.comcast.net and SMTP.peoplepc.com
Each of the above must be assigned in it's email account setup.
Thunderbird then gives the following warning ....

Thunderbird does not elaborate on what "Advance" means or offer additional settings to accommodate it. I can only guess it could be possible "port" selection, (most SMTP travel on port 25). If both SMTP's are communicating on port 25, I guess this could cause problems. If one of your services provide SMTP with different port settings than the other, try using it.
You may start understanding why my first post (thread#4) suggested using a NON-ISP domain account as your primary email account. Selecting one which offers IMAP interface provides all/most of the features provided with email clients. Now it does not matter what state (MI/FL/traveling inbetween) your in or what ISP you connect to, or which computer you are using. If you have the account set up in your email client, it works.