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Cache setting for NS 7.1

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    Hi all,

    Can some one please tell me what a good cache setting would be for NS 7.1 as of now it is set to 50 MB should it be higer or lower? :confused:


    Regards,

    FireDancer :cool:
     
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    Ramona

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    Hi FireDancer,

    Leave the default 50 MB setting as is Until you've run Netscape for a reasonable length of time. I would suggest that you use the Resource Meter to check your available resources, then you can make a decision on your settings. My experience has been that using more than 3 or 4 tabs increases the drain on resources. If you see your resources falling below 15%, then you will need to make changes in your memory cache settings.

    There is a serious Resource Leak in Netscape 7.1. Setting the memory cache from the default 4096 to 2048, does seem to increase available resources.

    Please post back with any questions.

    Ramona :D
     

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    FireDancer,

    You could compare it to your IE cache setting (temporary internet files), and use a similar size. I never use a disk cache size of 50mb, but that is a personal preference. I currently use a 16mb disk cache.

    As far as the memory cache, look at what Ramona wrote...

    tranquilo
     
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    Hi FireDancer,

    MB, kb, bytes.... then throw in memory cache, disk cache... resource leak....? Bet your wondering, what did I get myself into with NetScape7.1?

    I agree with tranquilo, 50MB disk cache is sort of big. I'm using 20MB in IE and 1000kb (appx 10 MB) in Moz 1.0.1

    Does Netscape 7.1 have the cache setting in megabytes? Mozilla 1.0.1 uses kilobytes (1MB equals 1024 kb)

    10 MB (10240 kb) or 20 MB (20480 kb) disk cache should be fine.

    As for memory cache, mine is set at 3000 kb (a little less than 3 MB) in Mozilla 1.0.1's Advanced Cache preferences. Netscape 7.1 no longer has that setting in the user interface so, if you find your resources dropping over time, see Ramona's page on the Resource workaround, which involves resetting the memory cache capacity to either 4096 (kb) or to a lower number by creating a user.js file and placing it inside your profile's xxxxxxxx.SLT folder.

    To see your cache settings in Netscape 7.1, type in, with no spaces:
    about:cache
    in Netscape's Location Bar (URL address field).

    You will see the maximum storage size in bytes (1kb=1024 bytes) .... in my case, I see 3072000 Bytes (3000kb) under Memory Cache device and 10240000 Bytes (10000kb) Maximum storage size under Disk Cache device

    With a 3000kb memory cache setting in Mozilla 1.0.1, I never have any problems running out or resources, by the way.

    PS: I have the windows resource meter running at startup, and keep an eye on it when having lots of different programs open at once.
    Make a shortcut to C:\WINDOWS\RSRCMTR.EXE and place the shortcut in your C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup folder if you like, and it will start automatically when you start Windows.
     
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    Hi FireDancer,

    Both the newer Mozilla and Netscape have the Cache settings in MB. Netscape recommends 8,000K, which is what I use with a 20 GB HD and 384 MB RAM. Larger disk cache size allows you to quickly retrieve more pages, but also uses more HD Space. Cache sizing also depends on your connection speed. Large cache settings for slow dialups and small cache settings for fast connections such as DSL, Cable Modem, T1 and etc ...

    The Resource Meter itself uses what you are trying to conserve, about 5% of your resources, although a small amount, I prefer nothing but the mandatory items in Startup. I have added a shortcut to the Resource Meter to the Quick Launch Tray.

    MHO,

    Ramona :D
     
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    Settings...

    Hi Ramona,

    I currently have cache set at 50 as you recommended, and just so alice knows it is in MB I have got my system resource meter up and running as of now with just 2 to 4 tabs running on 2 seperate windows and some other applications running in the back ground ie.. firewall and antivirus program

    SYSTEM RESOUCES 73% FREE

    USER RESOURCES 86% FREE

    GDI RESOURCES 73% FREE

    I seem to get less resources as I open more at one time which I would think would be natural, as far as setting disk and memory cache to better help my system im not sure as how to do that or if I need to at this time as I am just a beginner and and do not understand all the mechanics or internal working of the system as of yet and am afraid to go into unkown and possibly costly areas :D LOL. I went with 7.1 as it seems to have more to offer then IE 6.0 as far as the utilitys go but im still learning. I woulod like my system to run a bit faster (currently 100Mgz FSB) but seems to be handeling all rather well now. Im not sure what tweaks I can add or do to accomplish that but in due time Im sure I will find out .
    Thanks so much for your responce and advise. If you can add more for me to read up on and or learn from I welcome it

    Rgards

    FireDancer :cool:
     
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    Ramona

    Ramona,

    I currently am running a Maxtor 20gig HD and am on cable modem with linksey router.. not sure where to look for or make changes to the settings your are reffering to in your last post. Sorry for the newbieness!!!! LOL :)

    Regards

    FireDancer
     
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    p.s.

    currently useing 512 megs of ram
     
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    Hi FireDancer,

    Those resources are lookin' good! You are correct, the more programs, windows, tabs, you open, the less available resources you will have. As long as your resources don't dip below the 15% mark, you're A-OK. When they get as low as 25%, then you want to start closing programs, etc. You probably will notice the Resource Meter has yellow indicators rather than green.

    Here are some Netscape Resources for you, in addition to the secnews.netscape.com newsgroups:
    Netscape 7 uFAQ
    My own Netscape Solutions
    Netscape 7 Tips
    Mozilla Preference Files

    These are only a few, and I have more listed on my Netscape Bookmarks Page

    Keep us posted on your progress, and let us know if you have problems.

    Ramona :D

    P.S. just reading your last two posts. To change your Disk Cache Settings from the 50 MB to a lower value:
    Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Cache
    You can experiment to see what works for you. Try 8 MB and see what happens. You can always increase the value.

    Wait to see how your system resources are used before changing the memory cache settings...
     
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    Make that 10.000 kb which is appx 10MB for my Mozilla disk cache.....I left off one of the 0's :eek:

    Firedancer, it's the memory cache size that would be a potential system resources issue, not the disk cache, and you might see a drop in resources over time, as the memory cache fills up, if your memory cache capacity is set too high.

    I would leave the resource meter running until you see how things work out.... no need to do anything unless you experience problems.
     
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    Thank You Both, Ramona and Alice

    Ramona and Alice,

    I have set disk cache to 8 to start will raise if need. And I will keep an eye on system resources and get back to you both if needed thanks so much for the help!!!!! ;)

    Regards to both of you,

    FireDancer :D
     
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    Sounds good :)

    Happy browsing :D

    Alice
     
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