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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Jb1210a, 2009/09/21.

  1. 2009/09/21
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    Hello!

    I just want to begin by saying I am a first time poster and I appreciate your help for my problem! I searched the forums here and couldn't find a thread that solved my problem with the Blue Screen of Death, so I figured I'd start a new one, instead of bumping a much older one.

    I was using my PC this morning and had to leave to go attend to my daughter (I should also state that there was a particularly nasty thunderstorm outside that caused a short power outage). I turned my PC back on and saw an error message stating that windows didn't restart properly and it gave me options to restart in different modes (Safe Mode, Last Known Working Settings, Restart Normally, etc). I went through all options and the result each time was the Blue Screen of Death. I googled the error messages (which coincidentally is how I came upon this forum) and found a few pages describing this issue but nothing had a workable solution for me.

    I read through a couple of the threads on this site and some say to check my RAM (I don't know how to do this, but I am capable of learning with a guide), or rebooting with the Windows XP disc to setup XP on a new partition. I'm capable of learning how to do this, but I don't want to do anything stupid and messup anything more than it already is. I followed instructions (by using multiple internet resources) and I'm currently at the windows setup screen showing three partitions.

    A few of my questions are:

    1. Is there something else I should be doing before I try installing XP (especially if I may be wrong and there may be an easier solution)?

    2. If it's determined that doing this will fix the problem, is it a simple solution? Would I need to reference an online guide or would instructions be easily handled in this thread?

    3. If it's a hardware issue, is the solution an easy fix? See question #2.

    I personally hope something happened that would make it an easy fix and something that could be handled from home without having to go out and purchase new hardware, any solutions to the problem are greatly appreciated!
     
  2. 2009/09/21
    mickzer

    mickzer Well-Known Member

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    Some of the experts that frequent this forum will probably be able to help you but it would be a big help to them if you could post the EXACT error messages you were receiving.

    mickzer.
     

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  4. 2009/09/21
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    That would be the smart thing to do, wouldn't it? The error message I am receiving looks like this:

    Technical Information:

    *** STOP: 0x00000074 (0x00000003, 0x00000002, 0x80083000, 0xc000014c)

    Also, I am using a Dell XPS system (I belive it's a 610 though I am not 100% sure).
     
  5. 2009/09/21
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    Actually the error mrssage is in the thread title ......

    Jb1210a - Welcome to WindowsBBS :)
    This is never good news : As you say you turned the PC back on after the outage I assume that it was turned off at the power button, but was it still connected to the wall socket?

    Even though the computer is 'off' there is power supplied to the motherboard while the power lead is connected to the wall socket.

    The worst and quite likely scenario is that some component has been fried by the power surge when power was restored and it may be difficult to determine which.

    The Stop Error suggests RAM and that is the place to start - forget about re-installing XP for the moment.

    The only satisfactory way of testing RAM is to test the installed RAM in various configurations. If you have a single module swap it around the slots. If you have a pair of modules run each one singly, swapping between slots; then run them in pairs swapping between pairs of slots. If you have 2 sets of matched modules do not get them mixed up.

    In your case running Windows Memory Diagnostic is probably worthwhile. Do that and post back.
     
  6. 2009/09/21
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    To answer your question, the computer was plugged into the wall socket and nothing changed aside from the loss of power. I do have my computed plugged into a surge protector, although not a high quality one, I'd hate to think that this piece of equipment failed doing what it was supposed to do.

    I'll run the windows memory diagnostic, I'm sure exactly how to do that however. Looks like have some reading to do! Thanks again!
     
  7. 2009/09/22
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    I checked out the solution you gave me and I would like to give it a try to determine if the faulty hardware is the issue. I have a question though, and maybe I am missing something, but is there a way for me to start my PC so that I can download the diagnostic, or would I have to burn it to a new CD? I'm assuming that, like most things, it would be the most difficult solution and I would have to find some way to burn the diagnostic to a new disc from this laptop (I am pretty sure the Optical Drive on this laptop is read only).

    In the event that I would need to burn this diagnostic onto a new CD, (and am subsequntly unable to) how would I go about switching the modules to test which (If either) are broken? Thanks again for your help with the speedy replies, hopefully I can get this issue resolved very soon!
     
  8. 2009/09/22
    PeteC

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    To run the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool download the software on another computer - it will need to have a CD-RW drive - all do these days.

    You will download an ISO (image) file which you do not burn directly to CD, but use the facility in your burning software to 'Burn Image' which will create a bootable CD. If you do not have suitable burning software - the native XP CD burning applet will not do - try ImgBurn (freeware). This assumes you do not have a floppy drive (on both computers) - if you have a floppy drive just follow the instructions for Create a Startup Disk.

    Then boot the failed computer from the bootable CD you have created - check in BIOS that the boot order is CD-ROM first - if not set it so that the boot order is CD-ROM > Floppy. The BIOS is entered by hitting Setup, F1 0r Del - depending on the make of computer - as the POST screen appears. Generally there is a message on the POST or flash screen indicating which key to hit.

    To physically check the memory modules - power down the computer and disconnect from the wall socket - open up the case and carefully remove the memory modules ensuring that you are grounded to the case while doing so.

    Replace one module and test the computer for booting - if unsuccessful move to another memory slot and repeat until all slots have been covered. If the computer fails to boot with a specific memory module in any slot the module may be faulty. Repeat for the other memory modules - if any.

    If none of the memory modules permit the computer to boot they are either ....

    All faulty
    The memory slots are faulty
    There is another hardware problem

    Sorting out a problem like this is a matter of trial and error - there is no simple solution.
     
  9. 2009/09/22
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks again for the direction, I figured I would need to burn it to a CD so I will be doing that today and reporting back as soon as I have a response.
     
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    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    Update: After 3 passes there has not been a single error found on the PC, is it possible that there's something else that might be causing this issue? I noticed you quoted how memory programs aren't adequate because they don't test memory the way that windows uses it. Is it still possible that there's an issue with the memory regardless of the results?

    If it's still too early to conclude that it's not the memory modules, should I still try swapping them on the motherboard? Unless there's something else that I should be checking I'll assume that will be my next step.
     
  11. 2009/09/23
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    I would pass on manually checking the memory modules for the moment and test the hard drive using the manufacturer's disk diagnostic software - DOS version ......

    Disk Diagnostic Software ....

    ExcelStore

    Hitachi/IBM

    Samsung

    Seagate, Maxtor, Quantum

    Western Digital

    As the computer is not currently functional you will need to open the case to determine the make of the drive.

    If the hard drive passes your next step is to try a Repair of XP.
     
  12. 2009/09/23
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    I opened my tower and noticed that I have a Hitachi Deskstar drive, however I was unable to determine the model number. The Hitachi shows that there are different programs for different drives. So, to alleviate the trial and error process, is there a special way to determine what the model is on my drive? Thanks again for your help, I hope to get the hard drive diagnostic done tonight and get my results posted for you all to see.
     
  13. 2009/09/23
    PeteC

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    You should be safe to use the Drive Fitness Test - CD Image
     
  14. 2009/09/25
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    I ran the HD scan utility on my PC that you recommended I do, and there were errors found on the drive. I'll be moving on to repairing XP and crossing my fingers that this is the solution.
     
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    PeteC

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    Press on - I go away for 2 weeks+ on Tuesday :)
     
  16. 2009/09/25
    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    Success! Kind of... I followed the instructions on repairing windows XP as shown in the link you posted, however, after skipping the screen where you press "R" to repair the OS, I instead was only able to select the partition with the current OS on it and either delete the partition, install XP on the same partition or quit.

    I decided to install the OS on the same partition that had the originial OS on it, this worked as my system is up and running. However, I am able to access/run any of my old programs / pictures on my hard drive. A simple search shows that they're on the drive, however when I try to execute a program, firefox for example, I'm getting errors. I assume installing the system on the same partition without deleting it first isn't what I should have done, however, it seems that I am able to save the pictures of my daughter.

    My question is this, since there was no option to repair the OS after I skipped it on the first screen (according to the linked source), is there a way to revert my system to the old OS by trying to repair again?

    If possible, I assume that would solve all the problems I am experiencing. I'd really like to fix the problem rather than reinstalling all the software/drivers I originally had on my computer (my simpler fix if you ask me).

    I have to thank you for your time and generosity in helping me out, this problem was a little out of my league and it enabled me to bypass what may have been a hardware issue (something I am clueless about).
     
  17. 2009/09/25
    PeteC

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    The reason you were not offered the repair option is probably down to the initial Stop Error 0x00000074: BAD_SYSTEM_CONFIG_INFO although the installation was recognised by the installation disk.

    You now appear to have 2 copies of XP on the drive - I assume you have 2 Windows folders - please confirm.

    You are running on the new copy, but all your applications are 'in' the original OS and need to be reinstalled on the new.
    No - any attempted repair now will see the new install - repairs are essentially an instalation 'over the top' of the existing OS which maintains all programs, data, etc.
    When you try to access a picture exactly what happens - do you get an Access Denied message?
     
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    Jb1210a

    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    I remember when I set up installation for the new system that the instructions said that it would install in the "Windows" directory and replace any files that were located in there. I'm assuming that it cleared out any duplicate files included in the installation assuring there wouldn't be any additional instances of the old OS. Oh well, I'll need to dig up all my software and ISP information. In reference to the pictures, I was trying to execute a video game that gave a command error and not a picture - sorry for the confusion.

    Aside from reinstallation of all my old programs, is there anything else that you feel should be done to complete this process? As far as I know, I have all the necessary software with me, will Windows include all the necessary drivers and information for internet access, etc?
     
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    PeteC

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    First priority in reinstalling programs is your Antivirus - then set up your Internet connection and update the definitions. If you use a third party firewall install and update that too.

    Log onto Windows Update and install all the necessary patches and hotfixes

    Once the security side is up to date install your other programs.

    Windows will only have loaded basic drivers so you will need to download and install drivers from the appropriate manufacturer's web site for your graphics card in particular and for other peripherals such as a printer.

    If you are unsure of the detail of your graphics card, etc once you are online download SIW which will show details of all the installed hardware - alternatively you may get this information from Device Manager. In Device Manager check for any items flagged with an ! on a yellow ground - these will probably require drivers. A right click on the flagged device > Properties will show it's status.
     
  20. 2009/09/25
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    Jb1210a Inactive Thread Starter

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    Thanks again, your help in this matter was most appreciated. I assume that the information setting up the internet connection and definitions was included in the factory software from Dell. I'll go through those CDs now and hope to get online on that PC within the hour. Once I have everything loaded back on and have it running at 100% I'll come back to update everything!
     
  21. 2009/09/25
    PeteC

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    You should be able to setup your internet connection using the Internet Connection Wizard, but if on DSL the computer should connect when the cable is plugged into the NIC and it is then a matter of entering User Name & passwords where appropriate.
     

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