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AMD XP 3200+ Heat Question

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by neutropia, 2005/01/07.

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  1. 2005/01/07
    neutropia

    neutropia Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hey Everyone, got a question about the AMD XP 3200+ 400FSB.

    I just got my AMD and my MoBo in today, there's just one problem. If I actually set the processor to run at the 400FSB like it's designed for, the Bios Registered temperature launches up to like 185F and then my system will shut itself down.

    I guess I have 2 primary questions:

    Should the processor run that hot?
    If it should, how do I solve the auto-shutdown problem without damaging anything in my computer?

    I've got it running at like 1.1Ghz at this point, because that's the only temperature stable setting.

    And no, it's not a matter of ventilation. My MoBo is registering at around 70, and I've got good ventilation in an already cold room...

    Please help!
     
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    This response is based on memory (mine) and therefore suspect ;) I believe 160-170oF are the HIGH end of acceptable.
    I've found that:
    -- the packaged heat sink unit w/fan for these are minimal at best
    -- have found as much as a 30oF difference between cases (airflow design)
    -- normal diff between M/B temp and CPU temp, 25-40oF (many variables)

    The high temp, and large diff (M/B to CPU) temps you have make me believe that the heat transfer between your CPU and HSU is not taking place properly.
    -- Wrong, NO, Improperly applied transfer compound between CPU/HSU.
    -- HSU not seated/clamped to CPU properly
    -- Defective fan, improperly connected, incorrect voltage
    -- Mis-matched HSU/Fan combo

    My current XP3000+ 400FSB runs @ 75oMB/122oCPU underload,w/Thermaltake Volcano fan/HSU combo.
    Hope this helps some.
     
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    Rockster2U

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    neutropia -

    Be thankful that its shutting down - as TJ-IT has pointed out, you're off the scale and its probably related to your CPU heatsink/fan. You should be capable of running in the high 40's, low 50's maximium with that CPU. Best to recheck how you attached that CPU cooler and the thermal paste you applied to the processor itself. I'll assume you have a 3 pin plug on the heatsink fan and thats its plugged into the proper fan header.

    To give you a point of reference (no, its not a fair one) I'm running a couple of overclocked 2600+ cpus at a 3600+ equivalent in the low 40's.

    ;)

    edit following Zander post (see below): yes, I'm talking temps measured C
     
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    Just to avoid confusion here, TJ-IT is talking Fahrenheit. The low 40's to low 50's Celsius (I believe that's what Rockster2U is using) translates to low 100's to low 120's Fahrenheit. Not trying to be picky here. As I said, just trying to avoid confusion on TJ-IT's part.
     
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    Hello,

    Just my 2 cents but your running way to hot it seems and I would take Rocksters and Zanders advice and check your CPU/Fan and Heat sink to make sure it is all seated good with the thermal compund.

    I am running a 64 4000+ and at idle it runs about 28C and under a load it runs in the nighborhood of 40 to 45C...no OCing done all running stock but I used Artic Silver 5 compund as well as have Cool N Quite enabled on my Asus Mobo.

    Like Rockster said he is running some OCed boards/cpus and 40C is very good for his OC. I would also check the fan headers and make sure your fan is running at the needed RPM. You can use Everest to monitor your Fan rpm as well as your CPU heat and M/B heat

    Regards,
    FIREDANCER
     
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    neutropia,

    This article is worth reading, bercause in order to follow the above directions, you will have to remove and replace the heat sink and fan. BTW, I've NOT found a problen with any AMD appreved sink/fan combo, i.e, those that come with the retail box.
    This article is also worth reading.
     
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    neutropia

    neutropia Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I did some 'feeling' on the fan, and it's barely pushing any air at all our. It's spinning at just under 2000 RPM, which I'm sure is pretty slow.

    We are talking a stock heat sink here, with just the crappy thermal tape, no real paste or anything special, so maybe it is going to run hot.

    I'm probably going to look into a copper heat sink, and a fan like my last comp had with an adjustable CPU fan that went anywhere from 2000 to 5000 RPM.

    Thanks for the advice everyone :)
     
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    The fan is supposed to push air toward the processor.
     
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    neutropia

    What size Fan is on your heat sink? The reason I ask is that 80MM will run faster due to the fact that it is smaller and needs less to push it. I am running a 120MM Fan on my sink and it maxxes out at 2000RPM, but usually runs at about 1200 to 1500 RPM under normal conditions.

    I am guessing your fan is about 80MM which should infact be running under a load at around 3000 RPM or better.

    :eek: Ummmm, well thats the idea anyways right Sparrow :)

    I would check that.... If the fan is turned around it will act as exhuast. Good Luck

    Regards,
    FIREDANCER
     
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