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    Chef_Tiger

    Chef_Tiger Inactive Thread Starter

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    I'm having a problem accessing my CD drive thru windows... however when I boot up with the boot disk with CD rom support I'm able to access it..

    I've been wondering if booting up with the bot disk and then reloading windows would correct the problem

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    That is one way, another way would be to remove the CD from the Device Manager, and then reboot.
     

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    Ok I'm not finding the CD drive in the device manager.. unless it's the IDE one... something I need to learn more on...

    what fun it is trying to set up an old puter when you really don't know a whole lot... I've been following the connections of this one... see that' what happened...

    I took out hte CD rom to install into the other one so I could load on the programs I needed on that puter...

    still need to do that but I may just bite the bullet and have it serviced... I "m hoping it;ll take a CD burner so that I can have it on that puter to burner the files I need to send out... oh dear the probs..

    but luckily I figured things out to get this one back up to go online and then found this board..

    Now if only fixing the sound could be so easy..

    I just had the thing service and when I got it back the sound did work... heck I was getting and error that the guy said must have been something I did... I did a google search and found out ti was just a file in the wrong place.. the guy said the sound was working when it left there but the first thing I did was put in a CD to play some music and it didn't work

    needless to say I will not be going back to that guy and being as I'm saving up to buy a new puter.. he lost out on a big sale!

    Anyway.. I did have one more question before I did a reload of windows.. will that wipe out everything I have on here now? not that I have much.. only a few emails with info I haven't written down yet..

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    Your CD is an IDE device, that was the one to remove.

    Your second question of installing windows. That depends on what type of CD you have. If an Emergency Recovery Disk, it will format the hard drive and install windows, or do an overlay install. In other words, one way wipes it clean, the other just installs windows on top of itself.

    If you have a windows disk, you can just run the install, instead of formatting the drive, though formatting the drive is the better thing to do, then install windows.
    But formatting the drive brings up other things, like hardware drivers. If you do not have them on disks, now is the time to find the drivers, Aida32 can help you identify them, and maybe show where you need to go get them.

    If you have big problems with the system as it runs now, doing an overlay install does not always fix them. I would just remove the CD [IDE], instead of going through all this if the system if fine otherwise.
    Windows will redetect and put it back.
     
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    well I did the delete thing.. it didn't work.. so I went ahead and did the reinstall of windows... and I still can't access my CD:confused:

    oh I do hope I'm not going to have to take it in to be serviced... I just spent $70 doing that and I'm now in worse shape then I was before

    :(

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    next question!!???

    what is the Aida32 all about... brings to mind thoughts of the stitching I should be working on!! :)

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    It is a program that will identify your installed hardware drivers and let you know how your system is doing, but not fix it. The blue type is a link to their webpage.
    You may need to delete the CD again, then go to the Hard Disk Controllers [you'll see IDE there, too], and delete everything there. Restart in Dos Mode and type in this command,
    scanreg /fix
    Reboot when done.
     
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    Ok.. in the hard disk controllers is the only place I found anything to do with the CD.. I know I've seen a listing for CD Rom at an earlier point so I "m not sure why it's not there now

    Will go download that program and see what it tells me then I will try your suggestion amd see how it goes!

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    aida32 result ??

    Ok I've downloaded and installed this program and ran it... now.. what am I looking at? you can tell this is all new terrority for me and I do really appreciate your helping me out here... perhaps this thing will get worked out before I have some funds and a ride to take it in.. course I still have the sound problems too :(

    anyway.. what's my next step for figuring out what this report is telling me... I saw one spot about logiacl drives and it only has A: and C:.. no D: :(

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    No D:, that would have been the CD. In device manager, you have nothing with yellow ! or ? I am assuming, and rebooting does not detect the CD? Go into Control Panel\Add New Hardware, let it run and see what if finds, it may find more than one thing here. Something is getting in the way here, and I think it is that your sound drivers are not installed. This file that was in the wrong place, where was it and where is it now? Do you know what your sound card is? Aida may have that information for you, this is what this program does.
     
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    ok in device manager I have 4 items with a yellow !

    one in the display adapters and one in the hard disk controllers.. these are listed twice and one has the yellow ! I've deleted them both and rebooted and then only came up with one so I don't know why there are two again

    the onther two yellow ! are both in the Sound, video and game controllers list


    OPTi PlugN-Play MPU-401
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    Sound Blaster Pro or campatiable

    They've been there since I got the tower back and yet the guy said the sound was working .. grrr!!!

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    OK.. update on what I've been trying..

    I deleted all that had the yellow ! including the second display and disk controller and rebooted.. I tried to restart into MS Dos but all I get is a flashing line.. can't typed anything! so I couldn't do the scanreg /fix thing :(

    when it came back up into windows the display and disl controllers were listed twice again and both had yellow ! have rebooted a couple times since and we're back to listing twice with one having the yellow !

    the MPU-401 is back in place with no yellow ! but the sound blaster is no where to be found!
     
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    When you reconnected the CD drive did you reconnect the small audio lead that connects to your sound card? Could the lead be connected the wrong way round?
    To check your installation you could probably find a User's Guide (manual) at the CD drive manufactuer's website.

    Matt
     
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    yes it's been reconnected... but the sound problems started when I got the puter back from being fixed... so it was before I had taken out the CD ROM

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    You may need to remove the offending items in Safe Mode.
    You can get to the scanreg using the start floppy, at the A:\> prompt type in these commands;
    c:
    cd\windows
    scanreg /fix

    It seems that you have an Opti sound card, and if this is an older system the drivers for it may be found on the 98CD at X:\Drivers\Audio\Opti\Opti933, you can get these off the CD using dos, you did say you can access the CD there, X being the drive letter for the CD;

    c:
    md\drivers
    copy X:\drivers\audio\opti\opti933\*.* c:\drivers

    This will copy them off of the CD onto the hard drive at C:\drivers.
    One question here that seems off the wall, in the Device Manager, under System Devices, is there a listing for Advanced Power Management? If not, run the Add New Hardware Wizard in the Control Panel, you may be surprised at what it finds.
     
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    ok... the only way I can access cd rom with by using the windows boot disk.. otherwise it just gives me the flashing line and doens't let me type...

    I assume that I can still do the copying of these files that way.. although my Cd drive comes up as the E; drive not x:

    Leave ti to my puter to be different!.. and yes it is an older model.. heck I was still dealing with a 486 a year ago!...:eek:
     
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    forgot to mention... I'm not seeing any Advanced Power Management and the add new hardware thing has been run several times of late and it's not picking up anything new
     
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    ok.. while the line was flashing in dos for the heck of it I typed in the scanreg /fix... something happened.... when I rebooted I had 2 floppies A: and B: both accessing the same drive... I rebooted and it went back to one A: drive.. but still no CD drive :(

    the files from the 98CD are on the C: drive now.... do I run the application? I'm not getting any sound from yahoo... I double clicked from explorer and it says I'm about to removed audio drivers Do I wish to continue? do I?
     
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    When the scanreg /fix is running you are looking at program with a blue screen with a few items it runs through, and yellow status bar as it works. This should not be done in a dos window.
    This line flashing in dos, this when you boot from a floppy? Or Restart in Dos Mode?

    What is your Video Adaptor listed as? Standard PCI VGA driver? Do you know what it should be?

    To install the drivers for the sound, go into Device Manager, under the Sound and Game Devices, double click the Sound Blaster Pro compatiable entry, a window opens, click on the Driver tab, then click on Update driver, then Next, select Display a list of available Drivers then Next, and you'll see a window saying 'building a driver data base', then a window will open maybe showing some stuff, click on Have Disk, your floppy drive will make noise as it is being accessed, select Have Disk and Browse to C:\Drivers. You want the Setup.Inf

    Do the same for OPTi PlugN-Play MPU-401.

    During installing when you get a message asking for the OPTi 82C933 Plug-N-Play Multimedia Disk, browse it back to C:\Drivers.

    Is your Wave Device for Voice Modem OK?
    The sound card, modem and CD are interconnected in Windows.

    You sure about Advanced Power Management? It is listed under System Devices, you will see stuff like System Board Support, Motherboard Resources and Numeric Processor if in the right section. The reason I bring this up is that with my 200mhz MMX processor system with Opti sound and S3 video, I could do a new install of windows, and it is not installed. I have to run the Add New Hardware to get it.
     
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    ok there was no blue screen so I guess it didnt' do anything

    the flashing line was when I rebooted to dos mode... got an invalid commant when doing it while booted with booted disk

    by video adapter I assume you mean display adapter which is
    Cirrus Logic 5430/40 PCI

    some interesting things while doing the device drivers... the blaster wasn't listed s for hte heck of it I did a new hardware run as it was there beofre.. sure enough it came up.. funny this is it asked for the 98CD and it accessed it!!! but i can't seem to access it thru windows..

    how can that be? :confused:

    however when doing the update the blaster was made into a double of the plug and play device and now there's not blaster again..

    the MPU still has the yellow !

    it's saying it can't find an IRQ resoucre (code12)

    now you should know that the orginal sound on this machine is a combo sound and modem card.. the sound card that's in here was put in by this guy I have work on the puter... let's put it this way.. anyone in my area thinking of using GENCOM.. DON'T!!!

    I may not know much about some asspects of puters but I'm certainly not totally stupid and I am capable of learning.. course that attitude he has could be that **** male attitude they have here that women know nothing!

    I'm afraid I'm unsure what you're asking about for the wave device.... but yes I "m sure about he advanced management thing.. it's not in the list!
     
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