Windows Explorer question

Hi All,
i am still a big fan of windows explorer and i was wondering why when i click view then status bar, it will not stay there the next time i open windows explorer. i believe this may be something fixed via regedit. please confirm.


thanks

 

Open windows explorer and fix the window as you like it. Then open tool.folder options>view>advanced and check "remember each folders view settings then click on "Apply to all folders" at the top. should fix everything right up.

 

thanks Bill, i'll give it a shot.

 

I you are indeed speaking of Windows Explorer ( not IE ( Iexplore )), then there is a default setting somewhere that it always returns too regardless of where you were when you shut it down.

A VERY GOOD replacement for Windows Explorer is VCOM PowerDesk.

Much more power and comes back to where it was when You quit. Even the A: drive if that is where you were.

BillyBob

 

How to retain the Status Bar(on IE and explorer) on windows XP

========clip===How to retain the Status Bar============
If your status bar disappears when opening a new IE 6 browser window:

1) With (only one) IE open, click View, select: Status Bar
2) Right-click on IE's Toolbar and select: "Lock the Toolbar"
3) Hold down the Ctrl key and click the close button (upper right)
4) Open Windows Explorer, click View, select: Status Bar
5) Right-click on Explorer's Toolbar and select: "Lock the Toolbar "
6) Click Tools | Folder Options | View tab
7) Click the "Apply to all folders" button.
8) Hold down the Ctrl key and click the close button (upper right)
9) Open IE to any page, right-click on a link and select: "Open in New Window "
10)Verify that these Registry entries exist:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
"Show_StatusBar "= "yes "
"Show_URLinStatusBar "= "yes "
==============================================
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/ietips.htm

Lonny

 

Lets get something cleared up here.

am still a big fan of windows explorer

This does not refer to IE.

Apparrently there may be some confussion here.

If Internet Explorer is meant then clear that up.

Windows Explorer and IE ARE NOT the same thing.

Windows Explorer examines the files on the HD. IE is the Internet.

BillyBob


Edit/add

Both have a default HOME position to which they go to when started. No matter where you were when you left it.

BB

 

" "Windows Explorer and IE ARE NOT the same thing." "

well Im way out of my leage here so patiance please

IE and explorer are intergrated, more so I assume with XP than my OS win me,, I had problems retaining the statis bar with both until with those instructions made it stick for good on both.
this may occure (win me)(when the status bar in on in one and off in another) if a person browses there folders with IE
or trys to surf the internet with explorer,, while I can browse my PC with IE , useing a URL on explorer just opens IE uderstood
But it confuses windows yet again


Xp being a completly differant animal, i should refrane from posting But i had seen that suggestion made by an MVP..
worked for me

regards



Lonny

 

I do not think so unless things have changed in the last five minutes.

When you right click on start and Select EXPLORE ( Windows Explorer ) the windows that comes up has NOTHING to do with IE.

That is why this needs to be cleared up as to which one is being refered to. So that the proper suggestions can be supplied.

There is also confusion at time over error messages.

EXPLORER has caused is the OS.

IEXPLORE has caused is the Internet ( IE )

BillyBob

 

If you right click start then select Explore.

Then Open IE

Then do a Cntrl-Alt-Del and look at the application tab you will see TWO SEPARATE applications are running.

One is an Internet address. and the other will be a Hard Drive address.

You will also see Explorer.exe ( Windows Explorer ) listed under Processes. And DO NOT shut it down. Well you can shut it down but you may be required to do a RESET to get the Desktop back. ( at least I just did

Windows Explorer is part of the Operating system.

Internet Explorer is not. Windows will run very nicely without IE. Would be just a little tough going to the Net unless you had a alternet browser.

I also seleceted an Internet address ( URL ) from the Favorites in Explorer. I got a very nice message from Kerio ( firewall ) that WINDOWS EXPLORER was trying to get out.

BTW I am in XP Pro.

BillyBob

 

YEP. There was a Lawsuit to separate IE from the OS ( install only ) But guess what ? It only lasted until they came out with XP.

IE is now intergrated back into the XP install with no way to stop it as far as I can see.

With 98 SE you could choose not to install IE. But in XP there ARE NO CHOICES at all. ( that I found anyway )

But this post is not about that.

This thread ( at least as far as I am concerned ) is to find out whether Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer is being referred to.

They are two separated items of business. Windows will run very nicely without IE. But it will not run properly without Windows Explorer.

And the point that I am TRYING to make is that just saying EXPLORER is not enough.

( see one of my previous replies in regards to error messages )

We need to know which one. Windows or IE.

This mis-understanging goes WAY back to Win95.

BillyBob

 

if a person browses there folders with IE
or trys to surf the internet with explorer,, while I can browse my PC with IE , useing a URL on explorer just opens IE uderstood
But it confuses windows yet again

I was just going over a printout of this thread when I ran across the above.

It appears to me that you * may have * things reversed.

The browsing of folders is done with EXPLORER. ( EXPLORER.EXE )which is located in the C:\Windows folder.

The URL is opened with IE. ( Iexplore.exe ) which is in the folder where Internet explorer is located.

C:\Program files\Internet Explorer on my machine.

BillyBob

 

Well since ive blown this way out of proportion didnt mean to
and since poster hasn't returned , lets continue , my educantion

Bmoore1129 suggestion was correct , the only thing I should have added <big-maybe>was to first unlock the toolbar get the display the way wanted then(status bar)lock, then "remember each folders view settings then click on "Apply to all folders" and subfolders ?

Its strange if I copy paste this URL into an explorer window our firewall asks for permision
and the window's title bar does not say Microsoft Internet Explorer.. atleast the first
try second results in proper window title,YES I know its still IE
then again strange that if I copy paste a ftp address into an IE address bar ie
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/ up pop's an explorer window buttons and all with google toolbar
if I do this enough times(with status bar on one and off the other with it unlocked) sooner or later ill have to with folder options
" "remember each folders view settings then click on "Apply to all folders "
right now somehow Ive got an ie without title bar title and no google toolbar
Ive only removed it from explorer toolbar,

gee If I can get this confused then windows can to

best regards
Lonny

 

BB - oddly enough, there are situations where you do modify Windows Explorer behavior by making tweaks to IE. Some in 2K and more, I think, in XP. Just wish I could come up with specifics right now.

They are for sure different apps but all I can figure is they must share some registry settings. Or some code in there somewhere.

 

I do not think it out of proprotion at all. I would rather call it education and understanding differences. Or fixing up mis-understandings.

And I think we are gaining on that goal. Or at least working hard at same.

And also there are MANY users that do not realize the difference.

And this topic is not really new on this BBS. It has been discussed before. But maybe not to this extent as 98 was not quite as complicated as XP.

When I open a desktop folder it only has the Name of the Folder in the Title Bar. Or if I right click Start and select Explore it only has a Directory name in the title Bar. Which is a Hard Drive Address. ( location )

When using IE ( like right now ) it has Windows BBS - Reply to Topic - MIcrosoft Internet Explorer in the Title Bar. Which is and Internet Address. ( location )

Its strange if I copy paste this URL into an explorer window our firewall asks for permision and the window's title bar does not say Microsoft Internet Explorer

That is the same thing I got. But it said Windows Explorer was asking permission. And that is because a different App is being used.

Windows Explorer works ( or will work ) with just the Local machine and HD. IE needs the Internet to work properly and read info on a server somewhere thousands of miles away. If IE does not connect to the Net than we get ZIP. Other than various messages that telling us something messed up and/or we can't get there from here.

Even though I have had XP Pro on here long enough so that I only have 4 days to activate it I still not sure I am going to keep it. It does not do a darn thing more or any better ( other than use twice as much disk space ) than 98 SE.

But on the other side of the coin is too much work to just dump it.

Newt
Yes there are ( or may be ) some peaks and tweaks that effect both but I also agree to them being different apps.

PeteC
Yes. I am aware that IE and other things can be disabled in XP. But in 98 SE I could delete the whole dam IE folder. Or uninstall it Via the add/remove.

I have to go out so I may not get back here before late today. But I WILL BE back. I enoy theses discussions

BillyBob

 

As Lewis Carroll's Alice said, "curioser and curioser ".

Mozilla Firebird is my browser of choice, although Opera and Internet Explorer are also installed. I don't like Internet Explorer, and don't use it unless I have to (among other reasons, images load very slowly, even with cable internet ... unlike Firebird and Opera, where they seem to snap onto the screen), but this thread got me to wondering about a few things.

I agree that Explorer (Windows Explorer) and M$IE (Internet Explorer) are two different beasts, but I think they probably are more closely integrated in XP (I'm using XP Pro) than anyone realizes.

Otherwise, why would Explorer have a "Favorites" entry in the menu bar, those "Favorites" being the same ones used by M$IE? I had always ignored them in the past, as I almost always have a Firebird window open, but today I clicked on the one for this site, then the link to this thread, and noted several interesting things ...

• My firewall (ZoneAlarm) did not ask for permission to access the internet ... probably because M$IE already had that permission.
  
  Rather than opening a new M$IE window, the web page loaded in Explorer's right pane, leaving my directory tree in the left pane.
  
  "Microsoft Internet Explorer" did not appear in the title bar of the Explorer window, but the M$IE icon did appear in the address window.
  
  Explorer's menus changed, with only one or two exceptions, to those used by M$IE.
  
  When I opened Windows Task Manager, Explorer appeared on both the Applications and Processes pages, but M$IE appeared on neither.
  
  Last, but not least, while in an M$IE window, if one goes to the menu bar and selects View > Explorer Bar > Folders, one is put right back in Explorer, even though the title bar still says "Microsoft Internet Explorer ".

To me, all this is just further proof of the almost total integration of Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer ... despite being separate applications, they are just two sides of the same coin.

PeteC wrote:

• "...although there is no obvious way to stop the install of IE with XP, it can be 'de-activated'. "

I don't think it can be, Pete ... despite the implications of Set Program Access and Defaults (I use the Custom settings, with access to Internet Explorer denied), I still have full access to M$IE ... it's just not my default browser.

Possibly the strangest thing I noticed while exploring (pun intended) this topic was that, while BillyBob's last post in this thread (as I write this, his is the final post) appears in a Firebird window, it does not appear in either an M$IE window or an Opera window !!?? I'll be curious to see what happens after I post this.

Addendum:

Interesting ... both M$IE and Opera break the thread after PeteC's final post and continue it on a second page, starting with BillyBob's last post ... this is indicated on the XP page, where the threads are listed. Firebird, on the other hand, displays the whole thread on a single page ... that, too, is indicated on the XP page.

 

First and foremost.

One very important thing here is that WE ALL must realize that we are all using different machines. And what reaction we get from the same program ( explorer in this case ) may be quite different than someone elses'. Little peaks & tweaks we have made may make quite a difference. Different setting make a whole lot of difference.

While writing these replys I also have 98SE open on another machine and 98FE on another so that I can do a little comparing.

Could be but I am not so sure. I think that because I get the same reactions in 98 SE as I do in XP

The Favorites bit is the same in 98SE & 98FE.

One difference in XP here and the other two machines. On the other two I do not have EXPLORE available from the right click on Start. ( grayed out ) I have NO IDEA how I illimminated that If I remember correctly I disabled it SOMEHOW because I caught Kids into places they did not belong.

Alias. I do not need anyones help to mess thing up

But is available when clicking on Start/Programs as Windows Explorer. I just found it under Accessories in XP. It does not show up under Accesssories on my 98 FE machine.

But I firmly believe that we all agree now the Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer ( IE ) are two different Apps. Even though there appears to be a certain amount of interaction between them. Which at times is a real CONFUSING PITA.

And if this is the case then this thread is neither wasted sapce or time.

JSS3rd

In reply to your Addendum. I notice the same differences between machines with different versions of MSIE. That is mostly browser, text size or resolution related I believe.

Explorer appeared on both the Applications and Processes pages,

Explorer better show up as a running process or you will not have a desktop.

Explorer and Systray were the only two items that any of us here ever said DO NOT shut them down when checking for problems.

And I DELIBERATELY found out that is also true in XP. I did an end task on it under Processes. TOTAL BLACK screen. No KBRD, NUTTIN. It was hit the reset button AND PRAY time.

BillyBob

 

With a few differences.

Windows Explorer does not need the Internet to work.

Windows itself does not need the Internet to work.

But, Windows and IE both need Explorer.

BillyBob

 

BillyBob wrote:

• "Explorer better show up as a running process or you will not have a desktop. "

Your point is well taken, BillyBob, even though it has nothing to do with what we were talking about. My point was that, when Internet Explorer is opened from the "Favorites" menu in Windows Explorer, only Windows Explorer shows up in Task Manager as an application or a process.

Only when Internet Explorer is opened independently does it appear in Task Manager.