i used to have win98se, last night i installed XP

how do i delete my old win98 programs that wont work with the XP?

with 98 i would just use the add/remove program thingy

with XP when i try to do that, i get only XP windows files that i can remove or add.

i have tons of downloads sitting on my comp unusable. how do i delete them and everything to them? i cant seem to figure out how to uninstall them and i dont want to just delete the folders from the programs file cause that would still leave all sorts of **** behind.

er, okay, i am babbling, i have been spending hours trying to figure this out.

help, anyone, any ideas, anything, help!

 

It don't sound like you did a proper upgrade from 98 to XP.

You had 98 in the windows folder now you have installed XP to the Winnt folder so it did not include these programs.

Had you specified to use the existing windows folder most of these programs would be availabe and installed now. Basiclly you did a clean install of XP onto a HD that has 98 also. Does it not prompt to boot win98 or XP?

In any case you should be able to use the "Files and settings transfer wizard" to get these into XP if you want. Hit help and read about files and settings transfer.

Otherwise if in fact you do now have a Windows and a Winnt folder then you may delete the windows folder and then browse to \Program files and delete all that were 98 looking carefully for anything you have installed in XP.

Do not delete the Program Files folder itself because XP uses it as always, but will only see programs that it has installed in the registry, start menu and add/remove. Some of these may still run if you browse there and select them.

But DO NOT DELETE the windows folder unless you do have a new Winnt folder. The Winnt folder is now the Operating system (windows folder).

Now if you are being prompted to choose 98 or XP on boot you now have a dual boot and there are other steps to clear this. So if you have a dual boot I would not delete anything yet. So decide what you want to do and let us know.

If you are being prompted to to choose at boot select 98 and it should boot too 98 as always.

If you do not have a Winnt folder and are not offered a 98 boot choice then do nothing untill we find out what you actually did.

Mike

 

If you just installed XP last night. don't be like me and get in so much of a hurry. That stuff may be more useful than you think.
just because it says "for 98 " does not mean it won't work in XP. I have Win95 and a lot of DOS stuff running fine.

But by me running XP in on top of 98SE makes a difference too.

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Yes you will if programs, downloads etc. are installed on a partition other than C: and you do a clean install. I know this from installing XP clean the 1st and 2nd tmes. That is the biggest reason I wiped out the clean install and put XP over top of SE.

But, I DID NOT upgrade to fix any problems There were none to fix.

Be carefull of drivers and things like Symantec software though

1st off what of 98 programs will not work XP ?

2nd you may have to do the same as we had to on 98 and a clean itself. Re-install the program and then un-install if you wish to

3rd. Have you right clicked on the program exe and check to the compatability mode.

4th If they are not in the un-install list they are not in the reg either. So XP does not even know they are there. So you should be able to delete then with no problem.

And then run some reg cleaner(s) and it will get the leftovers anyway.

BillyBob

 

okay, i guess i ****ed it all up then

i thought all i had to do was put the disk in and follow the directions

i dont have a cd burner, never thought that i needed one

i just read that XP was supposed to speed up my computer by up grading it. but it is extremely slow now, slower than before.

now my computer cant keep up with my internet connection, or at least that is how it seems.

a friend suggested i install Ontrack System Suite version 4.0 cause it has 7 powerful utilites, fully integrated into one program.

i dont think i have any idea of what i am doing. a false sense of security lead me to do things that now seem to be all fecked up.

sorry, i just realized i dont know how to install a major program to my little emachine.

so, i have to reinstall the win xp allowing it to reformat my c drive, or did i mess up what i read?

 

The best option is to always do a clean install. Upgrading any operating system to XP can cause problems (as you've found out), and unfortunately, your EMachine may not really be able to handle XP. Although XP is far more stable, and tweakable, it does put a strain on the system, and unless you've got the horsepower to run it properly, it will be worse, not better.

I would attempt to back up any important data that you have, and see if there are XP versions of your favourite software around, take note of where you found them for later.

Put in the XP CD, and restart the computer, select New Install, and let the setup procedure format the computer, and install XP.
Once it's finished, you'll probably have to hunt around for drivers for your hardware (maybe not, depending on what's in it), and then you can update any drivers, do windows updates, and then start installing your software.

 

That my Friend applys to putting any version of Windows over another.

I disagree with you but you ARE NOT WRONG either.

If upgrading to fix problems I agree. Do not bother.

But I but XP Pro over 98SE ( which had no problems ) and still has none. None that XP created anyway The user did however create a few few. But they are now fixed.

But you are correct it must be done properly.

BillyBob

 

Hello LuckyKitten,

As an aside, when following reboot's advice on XP updates, DO NOT DO THEM ALL AT ONCE! Any perusal of the posts about Windows updates on this board should give anyone pause. Do them one at a time with some time between, say a few days.

You can do your user program installs W/O finishing the XP updates first.

XP has something new that 98 did not have. It's called System Restore. It has the ability to restore the Windows state to an earlier time. Used wisely, it can be a life saver.

Here is a great site on XP and you'll find references to System Restore http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/

Regards - Charles

 

It most certainly does have that.

But, if not used with some thought it can also UNDO any repairs that have been made.

SR is nice but it is not a Magical Fix all. It can get you back into as well as out of trouble.

After getting things fixed and working properly SR should be shut down and restarted to make a new restore point(s).

Then on to the next item of business.

And SR works on all drives that it is set up on.

I myself normally keep SR shutdown unless I am going to make additions, omissions or corrections. Then I start it and let it make a new point that refelects the system as it is. Not what it was yesterday. And will include any and all changes that may have been made.

BillyBob

 

May I ask WHY ?

I put XP Pro in and did 22 updates in one shot right after I installed the Motherboard drivers. No problems.

When I repaired XP ( Just messing around. Not really needed ) I installed 20 again and no problems.

I am reffering to the critical updates not the others. Those I do use a little more carefully. And most of them I do not need anyway.

I install both Audio and Video updates today and I did do them separately. Making a Restore point in between.

BillyBob

 

I have also found that doing all the critical updates at once is fine. Just don't bother doing ANY driver updates. If you want a driver update, get it from the manufacturer of your hardware, don't trust MS's drivers, they're NOT always what you want.
Case in point, a Compaq, with some sort of Diamond video card. Works perfect with Compaq's drivers. Update to MS's driver, and it's just not quite the right one, back to 16 color at 640x480, until you can "roll back" the driver to the Compaq one. Same applies to Nvidia, which I noticed has a driver update at MS...

 

BillyBob & Reboot,

The probability is that you're both right. But I've seen enough posts around this issue to know that a minority run into problems with updates from a variety of causes. Doing them a little at a time will help pinpoint which update causes a problem if it happens.

Now I have never had a problem with updates either, but with all due respect, neither one of us can take our experiences and say because we've never had a problem, someone else won't.

Regards - Charles

 

I do fully agree about using a little common sense about Driver updates from MS.

I also agree that driver updates but on ( as you say a Compaq ( or any OEM Machine )) can be troublesome.

But I myself got a BIG surprise today. Installing the Video upgrade actually did upgrade. NO PROBLEMS with either of my Golf games like I had before. The same version from Nvidia almost killed me.

I also reactivated the onboard audio today and updates from MS worked fine there. WOW !! What a difference from the old SB16.

But I was ready for problems. I had a restore point(s).

Plus. my MAIN concern right now is finding out how much beating I can give XP Pro, what I can or can not do and what works and what don't within the next 10 days. But at this point in time it looks like XP Pro will be activated as it is.

I have to admit that I AM NOT BABYING this thing.

BillyBob

 

okay, i tried again, i told it to make everything new and not to remember the old stuff

but, all the old stuff is still here and it still isnt working as well as 98 did a few days ago even with all its error messages and broken recycle bin.

it never said a word about doing anything like that, and now i dont have dos so i dont know how to do it myself anymore


i am just becoming more and more confused. i just want everything gone and start fresh with this xp.

 

thank you, now i know what i kept doing wrong and why none of what all of you have been saying wasnt making any sense to me.

thank you, now it works like a dream, just gotta figure out all the new ways things have to be done. thank you.

this lil kitten is lucky to have found this board, full of smart people to help me when i get lost. thank you everyone

 

Hello:
What is mhz speed of your puter and it's memory, as i have found that XP verrrrry slow unless 256 or more RAM
i wold be very tempted to stay with 98 for above reasons

this is probably no help to you now, but i went to xp (in Jan) only because we wanted to go on DSL and old 'puter wouldn't (new 'puter came with XP)
the point is i kept old 'puter with 98se and have since found that i need the 98 'puter as 2 programs and a personal website can only work in old 98 'puter. plus Word and Excel can not me moved to this xp 'puter possibly because they were upgraded from office 97 CD which is now missing from our shelf of software
MIR

 

here is what the sticker on the front of my tower says, i know, it has been there over two years now:

500MHz Intel Celeron Processor
64MB SyncDRAM (256MBmax)
128KB L2 Cache (66MHz System Bus)
10GB Hard Drive (Ultra DMA/66)
40x CD-ROM (40x Max)
3Dagp Graphics (4MB Video)
56k Fax Modem (ITU V.90 K56flex) <- but now i have an ether net card and use an external cable modem instead.

its crappy, but its mine