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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Christer, 2003/06/07.

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    Look in "Computer Management" under "System Tools | Local User and Groups | Users" and you'll see who has accounts on your machine. Mine has Administrator, Guest, Help Assistant, and Support_388945a0 - the last 3 have red X's on them? My admin account "appears" to be the only active one... By the way, I was able to delete accounts from within this console!

    Russ
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Hi Russ!

    If I recall correctly, Newt adviced against deleting the accounts set up by Windows Installer. I don´t know exactly why but I for one will go by his advice until told differently.

    However, Your system seems to run okey!

    Christer
     

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    Christer - there should be only one administrator account on the PC.

    But you can give full administrative rights to any other users you choose by going into the local groups and adding the username to the administrator group.
     
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    Christer

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    Hi Newt!

    In Controlpanel / Admin. Tools / Computer Management / Local Users and Groups / Users, I´ve got five accounts:

    Administrator, "User Name ", Guest (red cross - disabled), Helpassistant and Support_388945a0 (red cross - disabled).

    In C:\Documents and Settings there are six sub-folders:

    Administrator, All Users, Default user (hidden), LocalService (hidden), NetworkService (hidden) and "User Name ",

    This is strange, I quote from my previous post:

    All of a sudden I have an Administrator sub-folder. Since I posted the message from which I quote, I have booted in Safe Mode for the first time and logged in to the Administrator account with my tricky password. At that time I had never seen it before and now it has revealed itself.

    I´ll never learn this ...... :eek: ...... :confused: ......:eek: ,
    Christer
     
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    Christer ...

    Booting into Safe mode will add an Administrator folder to C:\Docs & Settings.

    I delete mine (in Windows Explorer), but I don't know if you can, since you use a password. The Default User folder can be deleted.

    I should have added, earlier, that you will only see the Local and Network Service folders if Hide protected operating system files is UNchecked on the Folder Options View tab.
     
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    Christer

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    Jim,
    I knew about the unhiding the hidden stuff. If You don´t have it show everything, You won´t be able to understand some of the discussions going on here.

    What I didn´t know was that booting in Safe Mode triggered the Administrator Account.

    The reason for me using a password is that I was adviced to do it. Since I´m on broadband, always connected and vulnerable, it would make it more difficult for hackers to penetrate my system.

    I wonder if I haven´t blown that with my passwordless "User Name" account ...... :confused: ......

    I´ll put the deletion of selected folders on hold for a while. Should I decide to be annoyed by them, I´ll probably get rid of them.

    Christer
     
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    Newt

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    Christer - the learning curve for XP is steep if you came to it directly from 9X. And the more of a PC control freak you are, the worse the transition. Finding out where they hide all the good stuff and how to do things you could easily do before.

    Easy transition from 2K to XP though. About like 95 to 98 was.

    And the same thing happened with DOS to Win3.x to 9X only maybe worse.

    Once you get really used to XP, try to go back to an earlier OS and you'll find your self muttering about things you can't do with it that are dead easy with XP.
     
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    It's a LOT easier if you use the Classic look, rather than the ghastly "luna" interface in XP (I suspect that "luna" is simply short for "lunatic" :D).

    One of the best things you can do for yourself is create shortcuts to some of the fundamental parts of XP, so that you don't have to try to remember where the Administrative Tools folder is, or what cryptic command you have to type into Start > Run. I have mine on the Start Menu, rather than the Desktop, because they're always accessible.

    Some of the more useful ones are:
    • DEVICE MANAGER: %SystemRoot%\system32\devmgmt.msc

      DISK MANAGEMENT: %SystemRoot%\system32\diskmgmt.msc

      GROUP POLICY EDITOR: %SystemRoot%\system32\gpedit.msc

      SERVICES: %SystemRoot%\system32\services.msc /s

      SYSTEM CONFIGURATION: %SystemRoot%\Pchealth\Helpctr\Binaries\msconfig.exe

      SYSTEM PROPERTIES: %SystemRoot%\system32\control.exe Sysdm.cpl, System,2

      SYSTEM RESTORE: %SystemRoot%\System32\restore\rstrui.exe

      TASK MANAGER: %SystemRoot%\system32\taskmgr.exe

      SCREENSAVER: %SystemRoot%\system32\control.exe desk.cpl, Display,2
    I've included Screensaver because I'm constantly turning mine off and back on, and also because it provides easy access to the other Display Properties.

    The next three are useful because they're one-step ... you don't have to go through the "Turn off computer" screen.
    • SHUTDOWN: %SystemRoot%\system32\shutdown.exe -s -t 0

      REBOOT: %SystemRoot%\system32\shutdown.exe -r -t 0

      LOG OFF: %SystemRoot%\system32\shutdown.exe -l -t 0
    Agreed. I run XP Pro on my laptop and my primary desktop, and 98 SE on a second desktop, mostly because I'm responsible for the health and welfare of my daughter's 98 SE computer, and I'd rather mess up my computer than hers. If I don't use 98 for a few days, it's amazing how left-handed I feel when I do try to use it.
     
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    Christer

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    Hi guys!

    Well, I come from WinME and according to a number of people, that´s the worst case. Before migrating I asked around a lot, especially on this board, in an attempt to learn as much as possible, thus avoiding the most obvious mistakes.
    I even did a trial installation on an old LapTop to get some "hands on" experience before going serious on the main PC.

    This actually payed off. It took three evenings, some tvelve hours, to get everything I had back on the new XP Pro system.
    If there hadn´t been problems with the latest version of InCD, I would have done it in two evenings, eight hours.

    I´m far from finished though, I´m in tweak mode and that involves a lot of reading and learning. The learning curve, as You point out, is steep but I now have all my original questions answered. The problem is that each of these answers generated at least one new question ...... :D

    The important thing is that I, this far, am 100% pleased with the result.

    Jim, I´ll add Your shortcuts to my notes for the future. I don´t want to make it too easy ...... :rolleyes: ...... just yet.

    It´s like we say to the young people who start flying in modern time = the time of the GPS. "If you don´t learn the basics from using an old fashion map and ruler, you´ll never really understand how the GPS works. "

    Regards,
    Christer
     
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    Christer ...

    The best way to learn XP is to jump right in with both feet, and don't be timid. It's not bullet-proof, but it's a **** sight moreso than Win9.x and Me.

    Re your comment about today's young pilots: they haven't a clue about what an E6-B is, or how to use it (I'm not sure I remember, myself), but thanks for starting me on a trip down memory lane ...

    I can remember thinking in 1959 that VOR was the greatest thing since Wilbur and Orville, and when DME was added a year or so later, it was like going to heaven.

    INS came in with the 747, and IRS with the 767, but I left the business before GPS (other than handheld units) became common. My son recently sent me a picture of a KC-135 instrument panel, and I almost didn't recognize it ... its glass screens are a far cry from the -A models I flew "way back when ".
     
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    :confused: ...... what´s an E6-B ...... :D
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Just trying to be funny ..... :) ...... sorry ...... :eek:
     
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    I do not believe that the party asking the question is the one who needs to explain.

    BB
     
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    Christer ...

    Mea culpa.

    I inferred from your remark about young pilots and GPS that you'd been around the traffic pattern a few times, so I assumed (unfairly, perhaps) that you'd be familiar with an E6-B.

    I meant no offense when I suggested that you could have done a quick search on Google. It was intended, rather, as a suggestion that it's one of the best friends you can have (along with this forum, of course) in the never-ending search for information. If I caused you any embarrassment, I apologize.


    BillyBob ...

    That's probably the shortest message you've ever posted. :) What would you like to have explained?
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff Thread Starter

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    Jim,
    no offence taken!

    When I saw the picture of it, I knew what it is but I didn´t know it was called an E6-B.
    I do most of my flying in gliders and we don´t make it that complicated ...... :rolleyes: ...... and every now and then, if deemed neccessary, we do fly a traffic pattern ...... :D ......

    I go Goggle on a lot of stuff, it´s certainly one of the best search engines there is, if not THE best.

    See You around,
    Christer
     
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    The E6-B (I have NO idea why the designation) was originally military issue, but seems to have made its way into general aviation use, as well, in several different versions.

    I had a flight in a sailplane once, at Elmira. The idea of being up there without any motive power was only slightly terrifying! :D
     
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    I found that a littie bit on the offensive side the way it is worded.

    I did not feel it was an appropreate answer for a preferctly ligit question.

    The 1st two lines in the reply would have been sufficent.

    BB
     
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    The smilie with the wink (;))was there for a reason. :D
     
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