Unable to delete some bookmarks

Some bookmarks can be deleted by right click/delete, but others cannot be deleted at all...Is there any reason for this and is there a way to delete them?

Also, Mr. Mettzger's page has a java script error when you click on *examples of user files*...Is there any way to access it?

And is there a place to find out how to write a user file...does it have any special form, and how do you know when or how to write it? I see examples but there is no explanation anywhere of how or why it is written that way. Is there a book to buy, or is it on the 'net somewhere?...Can things just be edited by going to edit/preferences?

Just out of curiosity, how do you know that letters and numbers = a color??? There is nothing like that NS7.

 

Hi Dixie,

What happens when you can't delete a Bookmark? Are you getting an error, or just no response?

Do you have Javascript and Java enabled? Check here:
Edit|Preferences|Advanced
Java
Edit|Preferences|Advanced|Scripts & Plugins
JavaScript

You shouldn't have a Javascript error, as the page is pure text??? Here is the example user.js:
user_pref( "imageblocker.enabled ", true);
user_pref( "profile.confirm_automigration ",true);
user_pref( "mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support ", true);
user_pref( "mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed ", false);
user_pref( "mail.quoted_graphical ", false);
user_pref( "mail.quoteasblock ", false);
user_pref( "mail.server.default.abbreviate ",false);
user_pref( "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new ", true);
user_pref( "mailnews.headers.showUserAgent ", true);
user_pref( "javascript.allow.mailnews ", false);
user_pref( "network.cookie.disableCookieForMailNews ", true);
user_pref( "mailnews.message_display.allow.plugins ", false);
user_pref( "mailnews.message_display.disable_remote_image ", true);
user_pref( "mail.allow_at_sign_in_user_name ", true);
user_pref( "mailnews.start_page.enabled ", false);
user_pref( "mail.display_struct ", true);
user_pref( "mailnews.fakeaccount.show ", false);

I have a list of scripts with the tweak and its use included:
http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7userjs.html

Holger Metzger - Important Information About the User.js
Mark Knipfer's - How to edit Netscape's Preference file(s)

The first paragraph on my User.js page is the simple explanation of how to create the user.js file:

The user.js is a file that you create, i.e., a user generated file. The creation of the file is simple enough:
Open Notepad
Add the scripts for tweaks that you wish to include in your Netscape or Mozilla browser
Then save the file to:

Windows ME
C:\Windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\profilename\xxxxxxxx.slt
Windows 98
C:\Windows\ApplicationData\Mozilla\Profiles\profilename\xxxxxxxx.slt
-----

Of course you can always edit preferences, and it will be added to the prefs.js file. You will know what tweaks to add on an ad hoc basis. You may wish to be inventive in your Mail reply by adding something clever to the "Author wrote ", etc. It's a user's choice kind of thing, Dixie.

As I've said several times, a user.js file is not mandatory. If you prefer not to use one, fine! Just be sure to backup your prefs.js file before editing...

There are HTML color charts listed in most HTML Tutorials. I found the ones I use on the HTML Goodies site.

 

Yes, I have java enabled. But when I click on the link in his page, nothing happens and java script error is displayed at the bottom of the screen.

When I highlight and right click/delete on the bookmark...some delete but many do not. Nothing happens...there is no error message but the bookmark remains.

I have seen your scripts but I don't know what they mean...For instance what does this mean?:
Override the default user-agent string:
Where did you find out how to write those or did you just make them up??

Thanks for the other links. I will look at them tomorrow when I get over pulling out my hair..
I know you don't have to have a users file but it is recommended. Maybe I should just copy and paste all of yours into a users file???

And just one more thing that is really confusing...what is a salt file? I don't have one anywhere..you said something had to be put in a salt file...off hand I don't remember what, but how do I make a salt file and how is something put in it? Just copy and paste or does it have to be typed in.

NS 4x looks so easy now...

 

PS...

For example:
What is a throbber???
What is a string spoof??

There are all kinds of sentences there but I don't know what they mean...

There must be a book somewhere that explains these terms...but I don't know where to get it...
Nobody is born already knowing this info. They had to find it somewhere to begin with. For instance...how did you first know what a throbber is? You must have read it somewhere...

Do you name notepad...Users.js before you put it in a salt file?
I am so confused at this point that I am probably confusing you, too...

 

Dixie,

For example: What is a throbber???

The Netscape Icon in the upper right hand corner of the page. It gives a light display, or "throbs" when you click on a link.

What is a string spoof??
A User Agent String spoof is how you fool a web site into thinking that you are using, for the sake of argument, Internet Explorer.
My User Agent String is:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 (Compact - Build 2)
You can find yours by clicking on Help|About Netscape

To "spoof" I have this string in my user.js file and I use it when purusing the MS Site, as those pages are often skewed using Netscape:
user_pref( "general.useragent.override ", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011022 Netscape6/6.2 ");

I disable the script after viewing the MS pages by inserting the following at the beginning of the script. In other words you can toggle the script on and off, or comment it out:

// user_pref( "general.useragent.override ", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011022 Netscape6/6.2 ");

How did I know to do this? Brooks posted it in a Thread on this Forum.

There are all kinds of sentences there but I don't know what they mean...

There must be a book somewhere that explains these terms...but I don't know where to get it...
Nobody is born already knowing this info. They had to find it somewhere to begin with. For instance...how did you first know what a throbber is? You must have read it somewhere...

There is no book. I read the Netscape and Mozilla NG's daily, save pertinent threads, read all the Netscape Forums, keep notes on details. Saw the throbber information in a post on the NS7 NG, made by Holger Metzger.

Do you name notepad...Users.js before you put it in a salt file?

Yes, save it as user.js

Yes, I have java enabled. But when I click on the link in his page, nothing happens and java script error is displayed at the bottom of the screen.

What is the error?

When I highlight and right click/delete on the bookmark...some delete but many do not. Nothing happens...there is no error message but the bookmark remains.

I have seen your scripts but I don't know what they mean...For instance what does this mean?:
Override the default user-agent string:
Where did you find out how to write those or did you just make them up??

As I said previously, I have collected these script from various sites on the Internet. Holger Metzger, Mark Knipfer, Jay Garcia, etc. Found a lot of information doing Google Searches. You can find anything by doing a search, if the information is on the Internet. If you are really interested in learning, then take the time to read.

Thanks for the other links. I will look at them tomorrow when I get over pulling out my hair..
I know you don't have to have a users file but it is recommended. Maybe I should just copy and paste all of yours into a users file???

When the need arises for you to edit the prefs.js file, or if there is some user interface that you would like to change, then post back and we can do it step by step.

And just one more thing that is really confusing...what is a salt file? I don't have one anywhere..you said something had to be put in a salt file...off hand I don't remember what, but how do I make a salt file and how is something put in it? Just copy and paste or does it have to be typed in.

The salted file contains your Profile. It is the xxxxxxxx.slt file located in:
C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\username\xxxxxxxx.slt

Netscape stores the Profile data in a randomly named (salted) directory to make it difficult for malicious programs to find the profile data. Another reason why Netscape is such a secure browser...

Ramona

 

Thanks! ...that clears up a lot...I will look into those. The basic terminology is what I am lacking.

Just one more question.
On what occasion would there be a need to edit a prefs.js file in any way other than by just using edit/preferences? Wouldn't any changes be made by just clicking edit/preferences where changes are made automatically

 

Hi Dixie,

Yes, any changes you make in the browser Preferences would be written to the prefs.js file.

If, however, you wanted to add an extra feature, like making the Throbber a Google link, or perhaps adding something to your "Author wrote" line in the email, this is where the user.js file comes into play. These are not preferences included in the browser interface, but Netscape allows us to change the UI (user interface). Mozilla is even more flexible. By adding them to the user.js file, rather than the prefs.js file, there is no risk in corrupting the prefs.js file with editing...

Ramona

 

Hi Dixie,

When you asked if there was a book that explained Throbber, UA string spoof, etc., I took you literally, that you wanted a book to explain the Javascripts in the user.js file.

As you know, there is a Netscape Guide which can be purchased with a 7.02 CD for $11.95 here:
http://secure.e-cdorder.com/pageload.do

I've not heard much about the Guide, other than it is very basic, so you can let us know.

If you want a good Netscape Glossary:
Click on Help | Help and Support
Or enter F1
Click on the Glossary Tab
Screen Shot

Below listed are a few Glossaries for general Internet terminology, which I use from time to time:
http://www.oit.ohio-state.edu/glossary/index.html#a
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/TeachingLib/Guides/Internet/Glossary.html
http://www.matisse.net/files/glossary.html

Ramona

 

Thanks, Ramona...that is what I am looking for...I think the URLs you give will have more of what I am looking for than the NS guide...

BTW...do you have any ideas why some of the bookmarks can't be deleted?? Some will, but others will not, no matter how many times I try? It is puzzling...

 

Hi Dixie,

Yes, it is most puzzling that you can delete some Bookmarks and not others.

In the Bookmark Manager, click on "View" and select "Unsorted ". See if that allows you to delete all Bookmarks.

Could be you have a corrupt Bookmarks file. Do you have a "good" backup of the file? If so, rename the existing bookmarks.html file to Xbookmarks.html
Then place a copy of the backup bookmarks.html file in your salted folder.
(C:\Windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\profilename\xxxxxxxx.slt)

Let us know if you continue to have problems.

Ramona

 

Thanks...would the bookmarks be in the backup profiles?? If so, then they would be the same bookmarks as those I am using because the backedup profiles would be just like the profiles I am using but they wouldn't have all of them as I have added to them... . I found a slt file but it has a number of things in it...cache etc. what part of it would I put the bookmarks in and what are all the xxxxxxxx? The slt file seems to be a bunch of letters and numbers...is that what you mean by xxxxx?

 

Dixie,

You can only use one profile at a time, and it should not be your "backup profile ".

The slt folder is the salted folder that Ramona referred to.

The salted folder holds all of your preferences for the current profile; each profile has it's own salted folder.

You should find your prefs.js, cookies.txt and bookmark.html file in your salted folder, among other files. Your Cache folder is also located here by default.

Assuming you only have one active profile, it should be easy to find. I believe Ramona has given you the location already...

tranquilo

 

I have 8 profiles.

I am *not using the backedup profiles!

Where else would the bookmarks be but in the profiles?The backup profile is just a copy of the profile so the bookmarks are the same.
The bookmarks just say bookmarks...they do not say bookmarks. html.I do not have a bookmark.html file anywhere on this computer. It is just called bookmarks with no html on it.
What part of the salt file does the bookmark go into?And where would a *good* bookmark be if there was one as all the bookmarks are the same?

I still don't know what xxxxx is. I do not have xxxxx in any salt file.

There are no prefs files in the slt file.And why would I neeed prefs.js for bookmarks???

I really don't know what you are trying to tell me Mr. Tranquilo but thanks anyway...

 

You have a salted folder... it is not a file.

An example of a salted folder name is:

ok6pj35v.slt

The first thing you should do is figure out which profile you are using, so you can be sure you are trying to delete the correct bookmarks.

You do have a bookmark.html file... I believe that windows has hidden the extension. Regardless, the bookmark file should be in the salted folder. You should see it in the salted folder, along with a few other files, such as your prefs, cookies, and history files, and you cache folder.

Each profile has a different salted folder name, so if you really have eight profiles, you should have eight salted folders.

Anyway, Ramona has already explained most of this, so hopefully it is not too confusing.

tranquilo

 

Mine seems to be missing parts of it. Under slt. I have cache, chrome, mail and news. I have no idea what chrome means...
I will just keep the bookmarks the way they are as they are the only ones I have. If they won't delete it is no big thing...