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Flashing Bios question

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by Danny H, 2003/05/22.

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  1. 2003/05/22
    Danny H

    Danny H Inactive Thread Starter

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    O.k chaps any help appreciated here.

    I have One computer working as a Digital Audio workstation.

    It is running Win xp pro on a Asus A7s333 Mobo.


    Asus have new Bios update at their site ( and it seems to address concerns I have ).

    Problem is this, a friend of a friend set my computer up and optimised the whole thing for the applications I planned to use.

    If I flash the Bios is there a way of keeping the bios settings he has set up.

    If I press default after Flashing I assume it will go back to Factory state, or am I wrong.

    I would rather not run through all the multiple pages and sub pages, writing all the settings down if I can help it.


    all the best

    Dan
     
  2. 2003/05/22
    reboot

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    AFAIK, the Asus flash utility does not reset the BIOS, it simply updates it, and all settings should remain the same.
    This is mostly true of all Award (and award based) BIOS'.
    AMI BIOS flashes DO reset BIOS to defaults.
     

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  4. 2003/05/22
    Rockster2U

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    Another little beauty that you may want to try is a piece of hardware called a bios savior. This will permit you to piggy-back a second bios chip and switch between your original chip and those specific settings and a second, identical chip with updated bin files and different settings if you are so inclined.

    ;)
     
  5. 2003/05/22
    Alex Ethridge

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    I have done many BIOS updates and the user-selectable settings have always remained the same as far as I know. To be clear, I have never noticed a change in user-selectable settings.

    However, I have seen one time there was a reason for me to go in after an update and make a new selection. I had a board that supported registered mempry. The BIOS did not. The BIOS update enabled support of registered memory and I had to simply go in and enable that setting in the newly-updated BIOS.

    So, unless your BIOS update enables a new feature, there will be nothing for you to do after the update.
     
  6. 2003/05/23
    Danny H

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    Thank you all very much, here goes then!!
     
  7. 2003/05/23
    tric171

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    Hi Everyone,
    I have downloaded the updated files for my BIOS but am not sure how to go about it.
    Can anyone tell me what to do,I don't want to muck it up as I have never done anything like this before.:eek:
    TIA for any help
     
  8. 2003/05/23
    Christer

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    Hi tric171!

    Flashing the BIOS can be done in different ways. Either by a built in flash function or by a simple boot disk with the flash program and binary file.
    My BIOS can be flashed eiter way. I´ve never used the built in function because if I use a boot disk it will create a backup copy of the previous BIOS version which can be reinstalled if the new BIOS version doesn´t work well.
    Each BIOS manufacturer recommends a certain way that they think is the best. Search the site where You downloaded the new files for information on the procedure.

    Regards,
    Christer
     
  9. 2003/05/23
    Alex Ethridge

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    If you'll post the brand of BIOS, I'll give you the DOS commands to type at the keyboard.
     
  10. 2003/05/23
    tric171

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    Thanks Alex and Christer,
    I can't get help from the website as it seems phoenix no longer lists it!
    Here are the Bios settings from aida32..

    BIOS Properties
    BIOS Type Award Modular
    Award BIOS Type Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
    Award BIOS Message GA-6VA7+ F8
    System BIOS Date 03/21/01
    Video BIOS Date 03/15/99

    BIOS Manufacturer
    Company Name Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
    Product Information http://www.phoenix.com/en/products/default.htm

    Problems & Suggestions
    Suggestion System BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.
    Suggestion Video BIOS is more than 2 years old. Update it if necessary.

    I hope this is what you needed Alex!!

    thanks very much!:)
     
  11. 2003/05/23
    Danny H

    Danny H Inactive Thread Starter

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    One more question on top of this please.

    is there a command anywhere in Windows Xp that will allow me to physically print out my bios settings ?
     
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    Rockster2U

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    I'd approach this a little differently. Whenever I flash, I make a boot disk with DrDOS, AWDFlash and the bin file. Then I boot from the disk and run AWDFlash.

    You should do a little homework before flashing and if you fail, you can buy a new chip from Jack@BadFlash.com

    ;)
     
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    Rockster2U

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    Another quick note - contrary to an earlier post, my experience has been that quite often one will have to reset individual Bios settings after a BIOS update. You won't even be able to boot some of the newer Soyo MB's after a flashing the BIOS unless you first clear your CMOS. ABIT Athlon boards will all default back to the slowest processor and memory settings. Also, if you have any kind of Raid controller on the MB, there are several other issues to be dealt with before you flash.

    ;)
     
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    reboot

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    It's an Award, 4.51PG (one of the best), and will retain all the user settings after flash.
    To flash:
    Make a bootable flopppy.
    Put the AWDFlash.exe file on it.
    Put the xxxxx.bin file on it.
    Put it in the drive and boot to it.
    At the A:\ prompt type: AWDFLASH xxxxx.bin (the xxxxx being the actual name of the file.
    Let it run. You MAY be prompted to back up the olde BIOS. If so, just type in the name "oldbios.bin" and it will be saved on the floppy.
    Restart when it's done.
     
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    Hello Tric171,
    Your mobo is a giga-byte one and they have an over the internet flash utilitity on their web site. It will determine what you need and do it online, then tell you what to do next.
     
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    is it necessary/beneficial?

    When a new BIOS update releases, is it necessary or beneficial to update it (flash it?).

    I just bought an ASUS a7v8x-x motherboard...currently on version 1.3...on the ASUS website it is up to 1.5...should I flash?
     
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    Christer

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    Hi uberclueless!

    If it works, don´t fix it!

    If You have problems that can be related to BIOS, then upgrade it!

    Christer
     
  18. 2003/05/26
    Alex Ethridge

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    When advice is given from manufacturers, the advice it to not flash unless you have a specific problem for which the update is written to solve.

    A text file of the BIOS history and what each update is intended to solve usually accompanies each update.
     
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    Christer

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    Hi Alex!

    I have a two years old computer running WinME and will soon make a clean installation of WinXP Pro (no upgrade, a clean installation).

    I have been given the recommendation to upgrade to the latest BIOS version before installing WinXP Pro.

    What is Your opinion on that?

    Thanks,
    Christer
     
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    reboot

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    Why?
    Alex Ethridge has already explained...If you don't NEED an update, then don't.
    If you NEED the update to address some issue that the BIOS has with XP, then get it, do it, otherwise no.
     
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    Christer

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    Well, as You can see in my previous post I gave the same advice. Then I came to think of what a person said to me a while ago when I started thinking about migrating to XP:

    In some cases, a BIOS version prior to the release of XP gave trouble in the form of blue screens or repeated restarts at shut down. The general advice was to update the BIOS to the latest version, before installing XP.

    I was only asking for a second opinion on this specific case and ...... :D ...... I did get one.

    Regards,
    Christer
     
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