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Nero Burning Rom & InCD

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  1. 2003/03/15
    Boomer74

    Boomer74 Inactive Thread Starter

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    Has anyone had a problem with this software, particularly InCD?
    I have a I\O Magic internal 48x16x48 CD-RW drive running windows XP SP1 and cant get the darn RW disc's to format properly so I can write to them.
    I have researched a lot of posts in I\O's forum and posted some questions there also...THEY dont seem to be a whole lot of help.
    Just wondering if anyone else here has had a similar problem and what they did to fix it.
    Many thanks
     
  2. 2003/03/16
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    Nero Burning Rom and InCD

    You may have done this already, but updating your Aspi layer may help. (http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/su...cat=/Product/ASPI-4.70&filekey=aspi_471a2.exe)and follow the instruction in the readme file.

    Also, if you're running a motherboard with Via chipsets, getting the newest drivers (Via is calling them "Hyperion 4in1" drivers, now) has been mentioned as a possible fix. (http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2)

    I've had little luck with NBR, but the newest version of Easy CD/DVD Creator has not been much better on my machine (550mhz Pentium III, 256mb Ram) and from what I get from the discussion groups board on Roxio's site, it's really funky on XP machines, so you may be better off with what you have now.

    Good luck
     
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  4. 2003/03/16
    aleekat

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    I had a problem running a multi-session with nero. It would burn, but then couldnt read the CD. Got some nice coasters though. Went and updated InCd to the latest version, was able to format and now it runs properly. Still havent fixed my multi-session problem yet.
     
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    Abraxas

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    I'd suggest dumping InCD. Besides using the antiquated UDF format that can't be read by some computers, requiring that the CD be formatted, and total CD space being unavailable, packet writing and XP seem not to get along very well. Some people have no problems, obviously, but there are too many that do.

    Simply putting files in a folder to be burned all at once later, or using multisession burning, accomplishes the same end and you get CD's in standard format.

    My crystal ball tells me that UDF will not be supported much longer and you may need to reburn all those CD's anyway someday.

    As far as the multisession goes, I have no problems with it. It seems that the IMAPI service is used by Nero, but I set mine to manual so that it doesn't start at boot. That may be the only difference from your setup.

    I'm sure you are probably up to date, but you could check for updates, too, just in case. They come out pretty often.
     
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    Boomer74

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    Well yes I have already updated the aspi...& the software...& the firmware for my drive.
    My machine is a 700mhz pentium3 with 512 mbs of ram, refurbished HP Pavillion XE783 that came with ME on it Hard to find any info about the motherboard (OEM systems s***) but I know I have an intel chip. I formatted and installed the txt version of XP as my machine isnt acpi compliant.
    When I had ME I had adaptec and a different drive, but NEVER had any problems with CD-RW's. I installed this new drive and Nero before I switched to XP and have problems ever since...sigh
     
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    Abraxas

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    So you upgraded to XP after installing Nero on ME? There we go.

    You don't need that ASPI on XP so that installation may be causing some problems.

    I hate to say it, because you probably don't want to hear it, but a format and reinstall of XP cleanly without all that residual ME stuff will make your life much easier in the long run. This problem may be just the beginning.

    In any case, I'd uninstall Nero, clean the registry of Nero entries, and reinstall it on XP. The version that is installed for ME has some differences from that for XP. Be sure to delete the Ahead/Nero folders from Program Files before reinstalling, too.

    I may not be reading your post correctly---I'm not sure when you say that you installed the drive and Nero before you switched to XP because it also sounds like you formatted in between.
     
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    Boomer74

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    Ok, lets try to make this a little clearer. I installed the new drive and Nero when I had ME. I could burn a CDR just fine but couldnt format and use a new CD-RW.
    I formatted my hard drive before I installed XP....it wasnt an upgrade, so there is NO residual ME stuff.
    It also made all the CD-RW's that I had formatted with adaptec with my old burner turn into "read only" disc's. I remember when I first put in one of these disc's (cant remember though if it was windows or Nero that did this) It wanted to install a UDF reader which I allowed it to do. Could this be the problem?
     
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    Abraxas

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    Do you remember which UDF reader it installed? InCD has its own, of course, so if the other one was Adaptec, there is certainly potential for conflict.

    So, basically you are saying that the same problem occurred when you installed Nero in ME as you have now with Nero in XP?

    I don't see any information on any drive made by IOMagic that is the speed you mentioned. What is the model number?

    Also, have you seen this temporary fix for their drives for InCD?
    http://techsupport.iomagic.com/support/Patches/Packet_Writing_XP.htm
     
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    Boomer74

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    It was direct cd reader by adaptec
    I had exactly the same problem in ME as I do now in XP
    This is my drive http://techsupport.iomagic.com/support/cdrws/magicwriter48x16x48/index.htm
    model # is 4816p...its made by benq
    I didnt see that particular fix.saw one similar to it, but didnt think it would be necessary since Nero's latest Incd update is advertised as being compatible with XP
    Since I have updated the aspi layer and the firmware it seems to have improved..ie: it actually gos through the whole format process, but still comes out read only.
    Saw some stuff in the CDRInfo.com forum about a lot of complaints with memorex media...which is what I have, and also something about disabling the NIC card and they got it to work....havnt tried that yet.
     
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    Abraxas

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    That drive is on their home page now. I wonder if it was there when I went there last time.

    I was looking for a flash update for that drive, but didn't see any. It would certainly appear that it is a hardware configuration problem since it occurred under 2 OS's.

    I don't see in the thread if you mentioned if that drive was a master or slave. You might try making it master if it isn't.

    Good luck and please post back if you find anything.
     
  12. 2003/03/18
    Boomer74

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    Personally I thinks its Nero's software having issues, or it may be the memorex media. Still havnt tried disabling the NIC card yet, will post results from that when I do.
    I already flashed the drive....you WONT find anything like that on I\O's site, had to go to Benq's site since they actually manufactured the drive....as far as I've been able to gather from I\O's forum, there were 3 different manufactures for that drive and they resell them. Oh and by the way, the drive is set to master...after having all these problems I pulled it out to double check even though I KNEW it was....lol
     
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    Abraxas

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    It may well be the Nero causing the problem. I have never had any problems with it and have installed it for many others that have no problems, but a different machineis, well, different.

    One problem with Roxio/Adaptec software is that it is uninstallable. Anything you remove leaves relics behind in the form of drivers and registry entries that prevent other CD apps from functioning properly.

    Removing this stuff is a long and tedious process of registry search and driver-file identification. That is why I never, ever install Adaptec software. The reader you installed is no exception. It has left a wake of damage, too. The only real way to get rid of the damage done is to format and reinstall.

    Roxio's market share is dwindling and many OEM's use Nero now. Their reputation as producers of the buggiest software ever doesn't help. The fiasco of non-XP compatible software, with pathes for patches being released (and even a patch for the blue-screen lockup caused by another patch), has brought them to the brink of extinction.
     
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    Boomer74

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    You know, that aspi update was also from adaptec....how ironic....I never had a problem with Roxio's software with my old burner....heh, But you certainly are right about machines being different....lol
     
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    Abraxas

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    Nero's version of ASPI always worked better for me on 98 and ME. XP didn't need it.
     
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