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115200 on a 56k modem?

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    MCHAAK

    MCHAAK Inactive Thread Starter

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    Ever since I reinstalled my Windows 98e the last time it says I m connected at 115200! And since I am using a 56k modem I don't understand what is going on here. I used to connect @45300 before - plus it never changes - each time the same maximum reading. Any thoughts? Thanks guys and gals. m:)
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    In the modem properties->extra init strings add: AT&FW2
     

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    That is a FALSE reading.

    On a Dlal-up connection you will not connect at anything higher than 53.3 ( regardless of what the systray shows) which is a Federal limit.

    I used to connect @45300 before

    And more than likely still are.

    That little Icon down in the systray is only good for showing that you are connected.

    The real truth comes up when you download files. If they download between 4K and 5K then you have a good connection.

    And for a Dial-up that is darn good.

    You might try working with the modem settings in Device manager or the Modem in the control Panel and set them back to 57.7.

    It has been so long since I had a Dial-up that I forgot just how to fix that.

    BillyBob
     
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    S95=1 or S95=0 usually fixes it. ;)

    Steve, if you put "AT" in any advanced string (extra settings box) it's redundant, because you already have the modem's attention in the portion of the string that's hidden.
    It can cause problems, if the second instance of AT, causes the modem to ignore everything before it, thus the basic init for the modem gets dumped.
    If he were to add the rest of the string, minus the "AT&F ", it may work.
     
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    REBOOT?

    You lost me now - what do I write and where? Thanks. m:confused:
     
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    Heh, sorry.
    In Control panel, modems, properties, advanced, extra settings box.
    Put in S95=1 save and restart.
    If that doesn't work, try S95=0
    If that doesn't work, put in W2
    The "AT&F" portion you do NOT want to put in there. It's redundant, and could cause problems.
     
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    REBOOT

    SORRY. Tried all three settings and no dice. But thanks for the ideas. I guess I will just never know waht I am really connected at. m
     
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    Try running System Monitor.

    In it and under Dial-up there is a setting for conncection speed.

    There are also other settngs that will tell how things are going.

    BillyBob
     
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    A couple years ago I bought a new modem and had this problem right out of the box. Updating the driver took care of it. Are you using the newest driver?
     
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    115200?

    Hey BB and Zander! Thanks for the replies - but - two things. I don't have a system monitor and I have the latest driver for my modem. So..........? m
     
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    System Monitor would be C:\Windows\Sysmon.Exe. When running, go to View\Add Item, click on Dial Up Adaptor and select Connection Speed. You will find that this little program can tell you lots of things.
     
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    If you go to Start/run and type SYSMON and system Moniter does not start.

    Go to Control Panel/Add Remove select the Windows setup tab.

    Then scroll down to System Tools select System Monitor and add it.

    It is best to know where the Windows setup files are before going to the Control Panel so you can point to them if needed.

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    I was following the thread and will toss one in if I may. I checked sysmon Dialup Adapter connection speed and it says 56.2K. Now that's not true as I think I know it's more like 28.8 or so. (I didn't have that before and added) ??:confused:
     
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    As I mentioned before many of those reading are not correct anyway. And if they are they are only the speed at which you are connected to your ISP at the ORIGINAL connection. It may say you are connect 50k but you may be actually running at 28.8 ( or even slower or somewhere inbetween )

    The best and most reliable source of info is the speeds at which flies download.

    Along with the download window the System Monitor will show this also I believe.

    If the speeds are up around 4 and above you have a good connection all the way through from your machine to the server and back.

    And if downloads are at 4-5 range then most Web pages should be higher depending on how much graphics they contain.

    If the speeds drop it may not have anything to do with your connection to your ISP. It may be due to something 100s of miles away.

    But by running System Monitor had viewing various things you can get a pretty good picture of what is going on.

    bobmc32 Makes a good point. What it says and what actually is may be quite different. And even though it says he is connected at 56.6 he knows that may not be correct. I do not know how he arrives at the 28.8 but it could well be from some of the areas tthat I mention.

    BTW. Has qnyone ever noticed that even with a Dial-up not connected to the ISP the System Monioer STILL shows 9600 ? At least that is what mine did.

    I have a Program that moniters my Cable speeds. I have seen it go from 200k to 500k and back to 100k within minutes.

    Dial-up does that same. Even though I do see the change, it is much more noticable with Dial-up.

    Bottom line.

    The actions ( or re-actions ) of your browser and downloads are more useful than the inaccurate reading of the connection speed.

    BillyBob
     
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    BTW. I have found that the speed indications of an External Modem connetion to be more accurate than an Internal.

    I am not 100% sure but I believe this is due to the fact that the External is not depending on the CPU for processing like an Internal does. ( or something like that )

    And also the External uses a dedicated hardware COM port and not a Virtual port.

    Most Internals only provide the connection. The system has to do the rest.

    Actualy I have found an External to be far more reliable in all respects anyway.

    BillyBob
     
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    BB, can't say with certainty as to my connect speed but get the general idea from a fixed size download that is timed. And my download speeds range in the 3's to sometimes less. I live in the sticks and do assume that my slowness comes from varying phone line problems and I seem to be stuck with it . No cable nor DSL options for the foreseeables and I don't think I want to fiddle with the expense or complications of satellite. At least not at the moment.
     
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    Thank you bobmc32

    Way to go my Friend.

    You just proved my point.

    That is much more accurate than what your connection speeds shows.

    And even if it does say 56.6 the max transfer rate is only going to be at 53.3 anyway.

    BillyBob
     
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    bobmc32

    Do not quote me on this as it is a suggestion only. Or even maybe a wild guess.

    I have a very strong feeling that you just might get some good benifits by going to an External Modem.

    There are much better at handling bad phone lines etc.

    BillyBob
     
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    BillyBob - Well, thanks. I have toyed with the idea of an external in the past but thought that the line trouble was gonna get in my way with it also. I'll put it back on my list of "to be considered ". They cost a bit much for me to be experimenting if I don't get any improvement. Wonder if Reboot could shed any light on that question?
     
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