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Fatal exception 0E W98

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  1. 2003/03/03
    wacraft2000

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    Fatal wxception 0E W98

    I use Windows 98, the problem I have is; A fatal exception 0E has occured at 0028: C0297948 in VXD VWIN32 ( 05 ) + 000012DO.

    The problem seems to occur after using computer for sometime, after message window appears, usually, I have a problem closing down propperly.

    I have searched for the answer but it tells me there is no match.
    If someone out there can help I will be most appreciative.
     
  2. 2003/03/03
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    Miz,
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  4. 2003/03/05
    DaveMo

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    My problem is simular to yours.Running Win 98, I get these error mssg's and blue screen all the time. I have researched Fatal Exception errors, matter of fact, thats what brought me to this forum in the first place. I have tried everything that has been suggested to no avail. I have came to the conclusion that maybe it is related to a system problem. I run an AMD K2/6 500mgh box. I am told that the earlier models of this system had a processor problem that it would reach a point that it would load up and not process any further information. I got that information from this board last Feb. At this point I am just putting up with it and hoping that at every blue screen the system will reboot. Will be watching your post to see if someone has the answer for you.
     
  5. 2003/03/07
    wacraft2000

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    I have once again searched the help pages for W98, but there is no match, I do not have a problem booting up. My problem is after using for an hour or so, the error message comes up and it just shuts down.
    Thankyou all for your help.
    Famhand
     
  6. 2003/03/07
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    Ok!

    Both of you.

    Well a good cleanup sometimes helps and is the place to begin anyway!


    So do the below and get back!

    Configure CleanMgr to max settings
    Go to Start-Run and type

    cleanmgr /sageset:1
    The above need only be ran once (these settings will be remembered as the default until another sageset is ran).

    It will present a menu select all except compress, then

    Go to Start-Run and type

    cleanmgr /sagerun:1
    As long as /sageset above has been ran on this computer from now on the /sagerun is the only thing that needs to run.


    Cleanups
    These are for 95 98 ME only!

    Boot to DOS (not shutdown to DOS). While booting hit F8 to startup menu. Chose "command prompt only ".

    NOTE: Win ME cannot boot to DOS so you must get a Win98 install boot floppy and boot to a: So get one somewhere.

    Or go here from the computer you are using now and d/l the win98 boot disk http://bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm . Get the one that says Windows 98 SE OEM.

    After downloading this to your HD execute it with a floppy in drive a: and it will produce the disk. Make the disk and boot from it!

    Type these commands exactly hit enter at the end (do not type the notes that are in parenthesis like this).

    del c:\*.swp (may get file not found, is ok)
    del c:\windows\*.swp
    deltree c:\windows\shelli*.*
    deltree c:\windows\temp\*.* (answer yes to all) "ALL "
    deltree c:\windows\tempor~1\*.*
    deltree c:\windows\history\*.*
    deltree c:\windows\spool\printers\*.*Remove floppy hit CTRL ALT DEL to reboot the computer. After booting back to Windows then a scan & defrag.

    Mike
     
  7. 2003/03/08
    wacraft2000

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    HI,
    I have done the cleanup job, so now for the big test.
    Further information, also, I have a scheduled scan and defrag once a month, and clean temps and such once a week.
    Thankyou for your assistance , I will let you know how we go in the next day or so.
    Farmhand
     
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    Could this be a possible HEAT problem. If the timing is fairly consistant it could be.

    BillyBob
     
  9. 2003/03/09
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    I also completed the clean up per your instructions Fri nite. I have always used utilities to clean up and have never used the DOS commands for this. I followed your instructions line by line, and followed with a complete scan disc, and defrag with Diskeeper 7.0. At this point, Sunday 3/9, I have not had a blue screen or oe fault. One question, this is a very through clean up (from DOS) how often can I safety use this procedure? Is there a rule of thumb guidline? As a reply to the heat issue, That was a consideration, I pulled the side cover and used an auxillary fan. Not sure if that is resolving the heat problem. Know the HD gets hot, but do not know how hot is hot. Appreciate all the help
     
  10. 2003/03/09
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    You can use this procedure any time after a clean boot. Should be first thing.

    If you install something and it asks you to reboot, let it reboot completely then shut down again before doing the clean.

    If windows has not asked you to reboot then it is OK to clean!

    This cleanup cleans only known useless temp files both windows and internet, in addition to the windows swap and shelliconcache additionally it gets the index.dat that windows protects, so this file can only be cleared in DOS.

    All that you clean are rebuilt empty and clean at next boot!

    Mike
     
  11. 2003/03/09
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    OK so Dave!!!!

    Dave!

    Ooohhh Davvvveeee!!


    How about you?

    Mike
     
  12. 2003/03/10
    DaveMo

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    Mike, appreciate the help. Wasn't sure about the command lline clean up, because everything I read tells me I shouldn't delete any temp files used with in three days of clean up. BUT, this system sure does boot up faster, and so far no BSOD. With your instructions, now I guess I can get rid of the software utilities that I "thought" was doing the job. So cool. I will folllow this thread and check out how its going. Will let you all know how well it goes on the BSOD's
     
  13. 2003/03/10
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    Bullcrap!

    If your computer has went thu 1 full clean boot after a program has been installed then you can clean as I directed.

    An install is usually the only program that uses temp files past a reboot. Typically when some install programs asks for a reboot it is wanting to actually clean up temps or use the runonce to finish the install.

    The temps were designed to be just that! Temps!

    What utils do you use to clean up. There are plenty that these DOS steps do not get. But remember this DOS cleanup get some that nothing else does so needs to be run also. I reccomend the below.

    Spyware and adware removal

    SpyBot http://security.kolla.de/index.php?lang=en&page=download
    Run this twice delete all it finds, gALWAYSh run this before AdAware. Leave all it wants to leave after the second run.

    AdAware 6.0 http://www.lavasoft.com
    Run only after SpyBot!
    Make sure to configure to Max settings, all files and compressed files.Delete all it finds

    BHO Demon http://www.definitivesolutions.com/bhodemon.htm
    A BHO is like a autostart/startup that only runs when you run the Browser.
    This program runs stand alone no install is required post me the items it finds other than the below. Normal entries here would be Acroc.. (Acrobat Reader) or Navc. (Norton Anti virus).
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Registry and System cleaners

    RegCleaner http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/regcleaner.shtml
    Look in first 2 cols for programs you thought you uninstalled or removed, these are the dregs left by the uninstaller. Also tag and remove any that you are POSITIVE are not supposed to be on your computer. After removing these go to the top Tools-Registry Cleanup-Do them all. Delete all it finds.

    EasyClean1.7 http://gswi.com/downloads.htm
    Run only unnecessary files and registry clean delete all it finds. If you have ME or XP in the Unnessesary Files type the word HELP in the skip box. Do not do Duplicate files!

    System Mechanic http://www.iolo.com/sm/index.htm Do not do Duplicate files!

    -----------------------------------------------------
    NSClean cleanups and exploit fixes
    http://www.nsclean.com/freebies.html
    http://nsclean.com/dsostop.html
    http://nsclean.com/htastop.html
    http://nsclean.com/0click.html
    http://nsclean.com/socklock.html
    http://nsclean.com/sclean.html

    Cleaning startups
    http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_pages/startup_full.htm http://jeh.ne.client2.attbi.com/TechSupport/index.htm http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm http://ww2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Uncheck.htm http://www.pcisys.net/~ravnos2/techinfo/MSConfig.htm http://www.forrestandassociates.co.uk/pcforrest/startups.html http://www.djbdesigns.com/wtvzone/startup.html

    Mike
     
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    I agree with Mike.

    After installing software and restarting Windows there should be NOTHING in the C:\Windows\temp regarding that software anyway.

    If there is anything left you can be 85% assured that the software MAY NOT have installed properly.

    I myself use PowerDesk to MANUALLY check the temp folder after any software install and restarting Windows. And if anything is there I delete it BEFORE the next restart. If anything was needed or problems come up with the software it is usually UN-install then re-install right then.

    Even though Win98 FE & SE do a fairly decent job, we as users need to check on it once in a while to make sure it has done what it should.

    I do not ( and never have ) put full trust in Windows to do what it is supposed to.

    The suggestions by mike are good and do work and do help to keep the trash to a minimum. But, we should also check into things while Windows is running in order to see if anything has been put back. Especially the C:\Windows\temp. folder.

    If anything is put back it might be a very good idea to find out why.

    Some programs may use the temp folder while running. But the good ones also clean up after themselves.

    I echo others in the fact that the TEMP folder should be just that. TEMPORARY

    BillyBob
     
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    I run the following clean up utilities:
    Spy Bot Search & Destroy v1.1
    Ad-Aware v6
    Spider v1.1.6.0
    JV16 Power Tools v1.0.0.122
    Registry Cleaner v4.3 Build 780
    CT Cookie Spy
    DLL Orphans v1.00
    Reg Compact
    System Mechanic
    RegClean (Microsoft) 4.1a Build 7364.1

    Lack of knowledge is probably my biggest problem. Most of these utilities requires user imput as to what is deleted. When in doubt, just say NO. You have to believe how I hate to rebuild a system, specially if I make the wrong choice due to a lack of knowledge. the information I have received from you guys is invalueable. So far, no BSOD sence the comand line clean up.
     
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    Ok looks good!

    Get EasyCleaner1

    good luck.

    Mike
     
  17. 2003/03/14
    wacraft2000

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    Sorry I have not replied sooner, have been off with back injury.
    After doing the things sugested, I am still having problems with the comp. freezing, though lately it has no9t brought up a )E message.
    Temp. was mentioned, I have kepted a watch on this as best I can.
    The system has a temp read out, but I have to go to DOS to read it, would there be a way to bring the reading up onto the taskbar, so I have a constant readout. I do not beleive the comp is getting hot but?
    I tried to download SpyBot but I have to choose between a Skychannel and Telelink, as I do not have Skychannel Shylink does not work out here in Australia.
    Thankyou all for your assistance,
     
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    I found MB5 at http://livewiredev.com/ (Motherboard Monitor)
    Free program that monitors temp,voltage,fans. Has links to indepth information about processor temps ect. My processor is running arround 40 deg. "C ". Sence following the suggestions of this thread, I have only had a couple of faults for about a week now. An improvement for sure.
     
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    Hi
    I downloaded the "easyclean" and Mike said to run Reg. clean and delete all that comes up.

    This makes me a little nervous here.

    :eek:

    I mean it came up with a bunch of stuff:rolleyes:

    Will this make a back up automatically so I can put it back?

    Sorry, but man I hate doing this kind of stuff !

    Thanks
    Geri
     
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    Geri

    You are talking about the Registry clean function in EasyClean, right?

    If so delete them all. It does create a backup of all deletes.

    Run the unnessesary files and delete them also.

    DO NOT DO DUPLICATE FILES!!!!!

    Mike

    I have ran it hundreds (maybe many hundreds of times) of times on many computers and have yet to have a problem with this program.
     
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    Yes, Registry clean, Easyclean.
    There are 135 of them. LOL

    OK
    Thanks Mike
     
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