do I need applog

App.Log,
I have read lots about applog some say I should have it some say it is just a waste of disk space.
I would like to hear from Members who have Deleted they’r applog Folder and are happy, how much does it slow down the system without, or are there other hidden problems associated with it. Thanks
Hawk22

 

To answer the question. NO. You do not need the Applog.

Before doing anything with the Applog folder TaskMonitor must be stopped from loading at startup.

Once that is shutdown the files in the Applog folder can be deleted. Do not delete the folder itself. If you do it may get put back anyway.

All the applog folder does is keep track of what and in what order you use programs. Then Defrag uses this info when it runs to put the most used at the front of the drive. And everytime you change the order defrag has to re-arrange thing AGAIN

I found this to be niether needed or benificial in any way.

After shutting it down my defrag time on the C: drive went from 3-4 minutes to 30 seconds. My C: dirve is only 3.6gig anyway with 2.29gig free

BTW. Taskmonitor and the Scheduler are the FIRST items I shutdown after an install/re-install.

BillyBob

 

Thank you Billy Bob, just what I wanted to hear. I take it than that you have had it taken off some time ago with no ill effects.
The part with Defrag was the one that worried me as I was told that Defrag would be messed around with, but as you put it it can actually be beneficial for Defrag.
So I will have crack at it and disable Task Monitor in Startup Cop and then empty the Folder. Right???
Thanks Bob

 

Thank you Billy Bob, just what I wanted to hear. I take it than that you have had it taken off some time ago with no ill effects.

You are welcome.

And you take it correctly.

The part with Defrag was the one that worried me as I was told that Defrag would be messed around with, but as you put it it can actually be beneficial for Defrag.

Sure speeds it up.

So I will have crack at it and disable Task Monitor in Startup Cop and then empty the Folder. Right???

The only thing that I have found is the * sometimes * after you stop TaskMonitor from loading one or two items will appear back in the Applog folder. I just delete them again. Eventually Windows gets the message and does not put stuff back in.

One other thing. It appears to be a good idea to make sure the Applog folder is empty if you are re-installing Windows over itself.

BillyBob

 

Thank you very much Billy Bob for your advice It is very much appreciated as always.
regards
hawk22

 

Deleting the contents of Applog with a batch program run at boot has surely saved me countless hours looking at a worthless Defrag window and saved lots of unneccessary stress to my hard drives.
regards

 

Your are welcome.

BillyBob

 

I do have to ask.

Why does the batch file need to contain the Applog folder ?

By stopping TaskMonitor from loading at boot up nothing has reappeared in my Applog folder.

Shutting down TaskMonitor also takes away another program from the Running in the Background group ?

I forgot that added benifit.

I myself have not found any benifit to running a cleanout batch file at boot up. But to each his own.

In fact I have found it to create problems when just restarting Windows for any reason.

Especially if C:\Windows\Temp folder is in the batch file. That can ( and has ) mess(ed) up a software install.

Just being curious I guess.

BillyBob

 

Belt and braces Billy Bob !

I do not have TaskMonitor at start up, so maybe the batch is superfluous - but only a few millisecs..

I would like to take this opportunity of thanking you on behalf of all members for regularly contributing to the board.

Your knowledge is very impressive, the time you spend helping here is very much appreciated and your posts are very well thought out.

regards, good luck and keep posting !
David

 

Thank You.

 

David I couldn’t have put it better if I’d have tried. I wholeheartedly support your comments about Bob.
I do have one more query though, why do I have 2 Applog Folders one that is just Applog and the other is Applog$$$ is there something strange going on??

Thanks again
Hawk22

 

I think you will find the $$$ one is a backup made by an app.
I would move it to another disk or folder and if after, say, a week
with no problems, delete it. If it is recreated again it would be interesting to find out how, and when.
I do not have this folder and $$$ is a common sign of a backup.
regards

 

I think you will find the $$$ one is a backup made by an app.

Or maybe by a re-install of Windows. I have seen that make some strange names.

Or maybe Windows did not think the existing was right, backed it up and made a new one.

I know for 100% sure that Windows does that with the RB00X.CAB files.

I would move it to another disk or folder and if after, say, a week with no problems, delete it.

Good idea.

Although bieng me I would more then likely just delete it.


If it is recreated again it would be interesting to find out how, and when.

Yup. it sho nuff would.

BillyBob

 

thank you Bob & merlin,

I will move it to my E (Backup drive) and like you say wait a while and see if strange things happen.

thanks again
hawk22

 

I meant to mention that:
Applog$$$ has 136 objects 6.47 MB
Applog has 278 objects 7.37 MB
just thought I mention that for comparisons.

regards

 

Applog$$$ has 136 objects 6.47 MB
Applog has 278 objects 7.37 MB

To me personaly that is 14meg of wasted space.

hawk22

I thought you had deleted the files in the Applog folder ?

Or did I mis-read something ?

BillyBob

 

BillyBob--Just want to be sure I understand. You are advising, after stopping Taskmon from running at boot, to remove all the files in the C:\Windows\Applog folder. Right??
I have over 90 files in there, mostly .lgc files for various applications. I do not need these for any other purpose? And if I go back to using Taskmon, Windows will recreate these .lgc files?

 

If you are not running Taskmon, definitely delete those files.
There is one for each program that you have run, and it is updated every time you run it.
When defrag runs, it uses this info to move the files to the front of your drive.
If you aren't maintaining them, the information is out of date.

If you ever decide to start running Taskmon again, it will start creating and maintaining the files again.

I have an old PII with a slow drive, so I periodically go through this exercise, just to allow my more frequent apps to be maintained near the front of the drive. I'm not sure if it is "really" making them start more effectively, but ....

 

Here's an excerpt from Resource Management that may help you regarding running TaskMonitor:

"TaskMonitor: This is a Microsoft utility which keeps track of the rate of usage of programs to make defragging more efficient. With short seek times and high transfer rates of today's hard drives, it is probably superfluous. "

For more info on things running at startup look Here

 

You understand correctly.

BillyBob