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DX9 installation problems

Discussion in 'Legacy Windows' started by daviec, 2003/02/18.

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  1. 2003/02/20
    BillyBob Lifetime Subscription

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    dx90_redist.exe

    Is the file you get when clicking on the DX9-Redist link.

    It is the full DX9. No on-line required. And I myself like having it right on my HD rather than having to go on-line.

    That is how I got my DX9 Installed the last time.

    But again I am using 98 SE. But as far as DX goes it should not make a difference. That file is for 98 - ME.

    BillyBob
     
  2. 2003/02/20
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    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    I've tried again with the usual results. This time I had the windows\temp cleared using DiskCleanUp.

    I also tried changing the registry value for sfp. I couldn't find how to turn it off, but I changed the popups value to 1 so it would show a pop up if sfp did anything.

    No popups appeared when I went through the process of uninstalling and re-installing dx9.

    I'm assuming this means that sfprot has worked and the reason I didn't get popups was because sfp didn't try and stop the files being deleted.

    However I still got my usual messages on both reboots.
     

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  4. 2003/02/20
    daviec

    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    BillyBob: I've got the dx90redist.exe file. I'll try that now, although I think I've already used it too.
     
  5. 2003/02/20
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    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    Same result

    :confused:
     
  6. 2003/02/20
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    Well. well.

    I am sorry that I could not help.

    I am now lost.

    I am now out of Ideas.

    I do not know what to suggest

    Other than at this point in time I * might be * taking a shot at re-installing ME HOPEFULLY to fix the problem(s).

    If that did not work THIS FIRST TRY then ME and the CD it came on would disappear ( as mine has ) and I would be back to Win98 SE ( like I already am ).

    BillyBob
     
  7. 2003/02/20
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    A couple of thoughts have occurred to me on this.
    The file in question is a newer or same version.
    Wininit.Exe is corrupted.
    Troubleshoot with a S & W 38.
    I read that you have already tried renaming or deleting Wininit.Ini, with no results.
    In my limited experience with ME, it is easier to pull teeth from a live grizzly than to repair system problems. I would reinstall at this point. Create a Restore Point, then update.
     
  8. 2003/02/21
    daviec

    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    I'm about to give up on this now folks, but I'd like to thank you for taking the time to try and help. :D

    This might sound odd, but I get some satisfaction from the fact that the problem that got me stumped has stumped everyone else as well. I don't feel so bad now.

    Mark, I can't re-install. The CD with my copy of ME on it is a system restore that came with my computer. Since then I've changed the motherboard, and it now won't recognise it as my computer. This means it won't allow me to re-install.

    I'm going to bring forward my impending upgrade to XP. I'm going to need another hard drive soon, so I'll get them both, and do a clean install.

    Thanks again.
     
  9. 2003/02/21
    Lonny Jones

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    Soyo K7V Dragon+
    AMD Athlon XP 1900+ <<<<<<<<<
    256Mb DDR
    Terratec DMX6Fire
    Gainward GeForce 4200 Ti

    daviec Hi if you have an xp system I wonder why you'r here in the win me section ?
    I dont have xp but i think you'd, after a fresh boot be logged on as sys administator then down load and install the upgrade?


    " "" "I'm going to bring forward my impending upgrade to XP" " "

    I wonder ?

    regards
    Lonny yes now im also confused
     
  10. 2003/02/21
    markp62

    markp62 Geek Member Alumni

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    Actually you can reinstall. You can run setup from the hard drive. Most of those recovery disks copy the windows setup files into the folder C:\Windows\Options\Cabs when the system is first setup. It is meant as a convenience to keep you from having to insert the windows cd for installing some hardware, but it will do the job.
     
  11. 2003/02/22
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    Hi Lonny,

    I don't mean this to sound short, but I'm in the ME section because I'm running Windows ME!! ;)

    The XP above refers to the name of my chip:

    Athlon XP 1900+

    So to clarify, my chip is called an Athlon XP.
    My windows OS in called Windows ME.

    The reason I'm said I'm going to bring forward my impending upgrade to XP, is because I had planned at some point in the coming months to upgrade to Windows XP , but as I can't seem to resolve the problems I'm having just now with my Windows ME OS, I'm going to get myself a copy of XP sooner rather than later.

    Hope that clarifies things for you Lonny. Maybe you should read things more carefully, or know what your talking about, before trying to take the p**s.

    Mark : Cheers for the info. I think I'll try that just now, even though I've now ordered XP and a new hard drive.
     
  12. 2003/02/22
    Lonny Jones

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    You seam to take offence at another human being
    trying his best to understand and help another --

    by example your minor problem proves should to you your no genius yourself ******** whatever this means **

    or better said hay lonn I understand your trying to help and learn
    here is some information --

    I dont think an upgrade to xp will solve anything --but ya never know it does have its own directx version -
    think you should fix any excisting problems before upgrading

    well anyway I agree with you except for the ******
     
  13. 2003/02/22
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    DavieC

    Just my 2 cents worth. I would consider win2000 before
    WinXP. Unless you don't mind calling MS for a new access code every time you change out hardware or bugger up the system and need to reinstall. :)
     
  14. 2003/02/24
    daviec

    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    Lonny,

    My "minor" problem has not only stumped me, as you may have realised. And though I may not be a genius I know how to pick which forum to post my topic in.

    I can't at any point in your post find an attempt to help apart from logging on as administrator on my non-exsistent XP OS. Maybe you need to consider how your posts would come across before hitting submit. Read back and you may see why I took offence at your suggestion that I don't know which operating system I'm using.

    To get back to my minor problem...

    I tried running SETUP from my hard drive as suggested by Mark. The installation went as normal up until the point where the files are copied, and the machine resets. After the reset I had to endure the all too familiar "Windows could not upgrade file..." error message a record number of times. It took several minutes before it had finished and resumed the final part of setup.

    After which the driver database was checked with no problems, and the machine began it's check of the hardware. At this point the installation locked up. As suggested on screen, I switched the computer off and back on but the process locks up at the same point each time.

    I used a boot disk to get to a DOS prompt and tried running SETUP from there. I got the exact same outcome as before including all the error messages after the reset.

    This minor problem of not being able to use my computer at all should hopefully be resolved tomorrow when I should receive my copy of Windows XP and a new hard drive.

    I'm assuming this should solve my problem due to the fact that I will no longer be using the install of Windows ME that has caused me all the problems.
     
  15. 2003/02/24
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    may see why I took offence at your suggestion that I don't know which operating system I'm using" "" "

    You simply misunderstud me I was expressing my concern
    and doubt about what os you had--and since the post is so long
    and many people have tried to help ,
    I could see no reason why I could not also put my two cents in
    although much less learned than the others and possible you two
    sometimes I do end up helping people--Yes I do try to stay out of things if I dont know whats going on,But if eveyone did that nobody here would learn anything,or be able to help.

    and i did read the whole post--every word.
    excet this time,,
    did you try to run msconfig stop everthing except explorer and then install dx 9 ?
    and did at that time device manager have any conflics ?
    Im not at all familur with me's profiles but do you have any restictions in place ?
    or passwords at startup ?
    Yes I do agree this is a great forum!!
    Please let the forum know if that up to xp helps
    Lon
     
  16. 2003/02/24
    daviec

    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    OK, there's been a misunderstanding. I'm sorry if I've been slightly sarcastic in my original reply to you (please note the smilie there though).

    However I did not suggest that you do not try to help. I suggested that you don't take the p**s (the *'s represent letters, use your imagination to make up a word that the board won't display :) )
    Although I can't go any further along the route of trying to fix ME, I'll try to answer your questions. I've always used msconfig to reduce startup programs to the bare minimum. The device manager was showing no conflicts.

    I don't have profiles, passwords or restrictions in place.

    I'll post again after my XP installation to provide closure on this issue.

    Before that though I'd just like to clarify a few points.

    I should probably have worded the title of my original post better. I did have problems installing DX9, however I think that this was a symptom of a problem with Windows, hence my post on a Windows help forum.

    I would have prefered to have gotten to the bottom of the real problem. Not having DX9 was not going to be such a big deal, but my fear was for future software installations which also required a reboot to complete.

    When I install XP I will be doing a clean install on a new hard drive. I would think that this would mean any problems I have with my current windows set up will be a thing of the past as I won't be using it.
     
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    Lonny Jones

    Lonny Jones Inactive Alumni

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    Ok --thank you
    But realize **** is not wanted in this forum nor appreiciated
    Nor needed--in any post--by anyone here not just me

    Bye
     
  18. 2003/02/24
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    daviec Inactive Thread Starter

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    Exactly. So try to be more careful with what you say, and read back over your posts before submission to see if it comes across in the manner intended.
     
  19. 2003/02/26
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    Just closing this thread off, so here goes.

    Got my new hard drive, and did a clean install of Windows XP.

    After installing my main devices one by one (sound card, modem, etc.) I ran the dx9 installation which had been a problem before.

    Installed first time, no hassles.

    Ran dxdiag and it's showing no problems all round.

    So I've finally got dx9. I have no idea what caused the original problem with ME. I'm sure, as I've said previously, that not being able to install it properly was just a symptom of an underlying problem. I could have lived without dx9, but I'd only have been brushing the problem under the carpet.

    Anything which required a reboot to complete installation would have given the same error message(s). It's just a pity I never found out why.

    Ah well. I'm off to discover the joys of XP. :D ;)
     
  20. 2003/02/26
    Lonny Jones

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    Im just curious and this might not even apply most likely not
    but did you have on the me drive
    a wmp version 9 beta ?

    Have fun with xp--whish I could--and a hard drive to
     
  21. 2003/02/27
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    No, I didn't have a beta version of wmp. I'm not a great fan of wmp. I find it bulky, slow and annoying (like when you want to listen to a cd while your online, and it insists on trying to connect to online media). So I never bothered upgrading it as I didn't use it.

    In saying that I've been slightly more impressed with version 9 in XP, but not much. :)
     
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