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  1. 2003/02/23
    MCHAAK

    MCHAAK Inactive Thread Starter

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    What does it mean when my C drive - physical drive - has NO USED SPACE? Second - I have no DriveSpace 3. Third - I have no Disk Compression Driver installed? Thanks. m
     
  2. 2003/02/23
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    space

    Geez this is a good one. Ah, is there an operating system here? :)
    btw can you get to a prompt & type vol c:\ [enter]
     
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  4. 2003/02/24
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    MCHAAK Inactive Thread Starter

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    RANCH

    THIS IS FUNNY?! I have a Windows 98e and NO! Thanks for the help?
     
  5. 2003/02/24
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    markp62 Geek Member Alumni

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    I don't think you have 98Se on the hard drive any longer. You may need to install windows.
    Were you experimenting with a deltree, or format command?
    NO USED SPACE would indicate that there is nothing on the drive. Where did you get this message from?
    Before you install windows, do these following commands at the prompt, assuming you are using a boot floppy;

    dir c:\ /p <anything show up?
    dir c:\ /o:a/p <anything show up?

    If nothing shows up, time for a clean install, but let's make sure there is nothing viral which could have caused this. Boot with the write protected floppy, choose CD rom support [watch for a message for the CD drive letter assignment], and do these commands

    fdisk /mbr <rewrites Master Boot Record, do this 3 times.
    format c: /u <formats the hard drive clean
    e:\win98\setup.exe <assuming E is the drive letter assigned to CD

    A better way is to copy the win98SE cd to the hard drive and run setup from there. To do this, do these commands;

    fdisk /mbr <rewrites Master Boot Record, do this 3 times.
    format c: /s /u <formats the hard drive clean and transfers system files so the hard drive will boot.
    c:
    md\win98
    copy e:\win98\*.* c:\win98
    Take out the floppy and reboot, then type in this command;
    c:\win98\setup.exe
    Doing it this way will save you the trouble of inserting the win CD at a later time if needed. Your system will go right to where it was installed from.
     
  6. 2003/02/25
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    MCHAAK Inactive Thread Starter

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    HOLD IT!

    FIRST - This is where I saw this used space 0k thing. Systems Tools - Drive Space - Drive - properties - compression properties - Dirve C is not compressed - then under that it has a pink box free space 2.0GB under that is a blue box used space 0k - Got it? This whole compression thing has got me lost! Like - I tried Drive Converter(Fat32) - it said I have no drives that can be converted? It also says that my drive C is not a compressed drive or a host drive when I check out the Compression Agent?

    Maybe this will help you understand me better.

    SYSTEM INFORMATION
    WINDOWS 98 4.10.2222A
    UPGRADE USING FULL OEM CD/SRC DIR=D\WIN98/IQ/U:xxxxxxxxx
    PENTIUM II
    128 MB RAM
    58% SYSTEM RESOURCES FREE
    WINDOWS MANAGED SWAP FILE ON DRIVE C ( AVAILABLE SPACE ON C: 2957MB OF 3824MB 9FAT32)
     
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    MCHAAK Inactive Thread Starter

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    SECOND

    I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROMPT IS OR WHAT A BOT FLOPPY IS! SORRY!:eek: Looks like I do have that Drive 3 but you didn't say if the fact I don't have a Disk Compression Driver is anything. Thanks again 62 for your reply! m
     
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    "Systems Tools - Drive Space - Drive - properties - compression properties - Dirve C is not compressed - then under that it has a pink box free space 2.0GB under that is a blue box used space "

    Drivespace is a utility that compresses disk drives. BUT, you do not want to do this on FAT32 drives. There is no benefit.

    The "used space" is indicating that there is no "compressed" used space on that drive. Which is what it should be.

    The FAT32 converter program is used to convert TO FAT32. Your system is obviously already there.

    "58% SYSTEM RESOURCES FREE "
    But, if the reason you are looking at various programs, is because your box is running slow, this could be the problem.

    What is this percentage after a fresh boot?

    If it is lower than 80-85%, then we can do some work on it. Either do a search here for System Resources, or start a new post.
     
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  10. 2003/02/25
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    TO WHIT AND RANCHER - I have a Startup Disk - is that what you mean? And you asked me what "box" I was using to post here? The one I have been talking about - It is actually a HP Pavilion 8260 which I had upgraded to Win98 by this guy - unfortunely he was in a rush that day and just delivered it without setting me up - so when I did it I had no dial-up and had to try to fix that - anyway - ended up reinstalling the Win98 with the CD! Which I have done again once to fix a crash. So - now it won't even uninstall so I could try a clean start. And to Whit - I checked it after a reboot and it was at 90% resources! I think that is good - right? Thanks for the replies guys - ps I ran the WinTune 98 today to check things out - well turns out that the Winmag.com went out of business so I couldn't get the results analyzed! My luck!
     
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    If you are booting to 90%, you're golden. At least from System Resources point of view.
     
  12. 2003/02/25
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    clean install

    If you want to do a "Clean" install place your win98 cd in tray & place your startup disk in drive a & reboot. When asked if ya want cdrom support arrow down to no support & press enter. Soon you will be at the A:\ now type so looks like this. A:\format c: /s /u [enter]
    Now reboot with startup disk in A again & select cdrom support. Now at the prompt type setup & install will begin:)
     
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    If you want a registry cleaner, go to this link.
    Regcleaner
     
  14. 2003/02/25
    MCHAAK

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    HEY GUYS! I don't need to unistall 98 first? I already have the Regcleaner - I have used it and the System Mechanic to clean out a lot of stuff. I didn't use the Duplicate part - need to know more than me I am sure - it found 64MB - but warned me against removing most of them. Oh - the lastest thing now is that when I click on HELP in my startup menu I get tht darn "you have performed an illegal action" stuff!? Geez! Thing is - the computer is really performing about as good and fast as ever - except for a couple strange things like that Help stuff! I feel like I am seeing sausage made - you know? Ignorance IS bliss I guess. Do you think a "clean" start should be done? Thanks for your input. m
     
  15. 2003/02/25
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    Doing a clean install will give you a nest of new things for you to learn, like identifying componets, and then finding and installing drivers:
    Motherboard
    Video
    Sound
    Modem
    CD
    Printer
    You should have these before you format. You may have to remove the case and identify these componets. I have no idea how old the system is, and therefore cannot tell you if the motherboard or other componets are supported by what the 98 CD has. I can tell you that a 56k modem is not.
    When you do the clean install, remove the modem and sound cards. After windows setup is complete, install the motherboard drivers first, then do the video. When that is done and windows is running, then add the sound, then do the modem, and then the printer, if one exists.
    Use Google to search for these.

    Belarc Advisor may help identify.
    Install after Format
    Bootdisk's
     
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    clean install

    I just did a clean install of win98se & the supra 56k isa modem was installed as generic 56k. didn't need mobo resources as the OS put them in on this old 500 amd k611 chip. Never fear but the unknown is near;) Go for it dude, you have crossed things up/down enough now.
     
  17. 2003/02/27
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    NO WAY DUDE!!!

    :cool: HEY RANCHER! Nice going with that clean install - did it help? Reading that post from 62 got me to thinking about just how out of place I am in here. I am no help to anybody - becasue I no less than anybody in here and the more I learn about the "behind the curtain" world fo this computer of mine the more I worry and think of all the things I could be doing and checking on! I love you guys for trying to help and all - but the fact is that all the stuff you talk about is "geek" - I mean "greek" to me!:D
    I used a new very cool utility today that I found on one of my many freeware searches for a Windows tuner upper that is not one of those tweaker - where I have to make ALL the decsions myself - that is how I get in trouble in the first place!!! :eek:
    It is called CPR 2000 - anybody know this one? Anyway - it is freeware - only way I can go - and it does almost all the optimizering and all the scaning itself - I did make some choices - but very few and safe I think. Anyway it is what I have been looking for really - so maybe I will take a break on "the great quest for the perfect tool" and rest. I would tell you what the effect was on my computer - but that is the kiss of death as you know - ever notice - free throws etc.....?
    WOW. This is long - sorry about that. PS - anyone have a clue on how to replace/restore a corrupted file? I am still getting that "illegal operation" **** when I try my main windows HELP on the start menu!!! :mad: Thanks. m
     
  18. 2003/02/27
    Rancher

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    Simple

    Start run type sfc [enter] This brings up the system file checker. You will be looking for system files that have been changed &/or missing. Careful here tho. Have your win98 cd in tray before starting as when you decide a file is needed the menu will ask you from where to "fetch it "! Point to the cdrom of course, & the win98 folder on the cd. usully D:\win98 :)
     
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    Be very careful interpretting the results of running SFC.

    It is well known to detect corrupted files that aren't. As well, it you ever decide that you need to resinstall DLL files, never use the Windows CD as the source, since these files will be old and out of date versions.

    Try updating the Help Viewer to version 1.4
     
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    restore files

    WhitPhil yep as I pointed out "be careful tho" this means watch for known changes to system files by ALL means; dates, size, & version. Common sense comes to mind here. If in fact a new program has written to a system dll & then the new program was removed/deleted the wrong way &/or the dll was uninstalled also, then what is he to do?
     
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