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LNE100TX Linksys LAN card problems with Me

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  1. 2003/02/11
    moco123

    moco123 Inactive Thread Starter

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    HELP
    I have spent hours and can't get the hardware wizard to update the card. The computer just freezes. I have replaced the card, I have taken out the sound card and put it in there to check and the same thing happens. Dell wants me to back up the hard drive and reinstall Me which I think is a waste.
    Thanks
    Matthew
     
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    What have you done to try and solve this so far?

    Try taking the card out.

    Power back on - boot into safe mode.

    Remove all listings for this and any other network cards in device manager.

    Shut back down and Restart Computer.

    Shutdown again

    Replace Card.

    Restart computer and let card redetect.

    I've got five of the LNE100TX cards on my network - I'm sure we can get yours to play nice.

    Gary
     

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  4. 2003/02/12
    moco123

    moco123 Inactive Thread Starter

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    LNE100TX card

    Thanks for replying. I removed the card and the systemreboots fine. I did shut down, rebooted and shutdown again. I put the card back in and after reboot it freezes at the screen windows is updating hardware. Then I have to manually turn power off, remove card and it boots fine. I tried changing the sound card and I put the LAN card in the sound caard port and the same thing happens
     
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    iceolated

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    Did you boot into safe mode and remove all other instances of Network Cards?

    I have had problems installing this card when there are remenants of bad installs. They show up in safe mode but if you boot windows in normal mode you don't see the problem .... until you try to install the card.

    Gary
     
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    moco123

    moco123 Inactive Thread Starter

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    LNE100TX card

    Not really sure what I am looking for
    I did boot into safe mode

    what would I look for to remove all other instances of Network Cards?

    I do not have any other cards in computer?

    Gary
    Thanks for your help
    Matthew
     
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    iceolated

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    Here's what I'd try next. I'm not sure how familiar you are with safe mode so if my steps below are oversimplistic pleased disregard.

    Take card back out of computer.

    Restart computer in safe mode.

    In safe mode:

    Right click on My Computer and select Properties

    Lef click on Device Manager tab

    Scroll down list and look for categories named Network Adapters and Other Devices

    If present click on + sign to expand categoreis.

    Delete an references to your Linksys Network Card or anything that says Ethernet adapter.

    Close Device Manager.

    Go to Start then Run

    In the box type msconfig

    Place the radio buttion in selective startup and take the check mark out of load startup group items This will prevent the startup group from loading - process of elimination.

    Click on OK

    You'll be prompted to restart - do so.

    Let computer boot back into normal mode.

    You'll probably get a screen notifying you that you are using selective startup. Click OK.

    Shut machine down - reinstall Card.

    Start back up - follow verbatim the Linksys instructions for installing the card.

    Let me know how this goes..

    If card installs okay you can go back to Start Run and msconfig and place the check back in normal startup.

    If computer locks again with normal startup enabled try adding the items in the Startup tab of msconfig one at a time until you find the offending entry.


    Gary
     
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    moco123

    moco123 Inactive Thread Starter

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    LNE100TX

    First I appreciate your help and patience, mine is running out. I did what yousuggested, it did not work. But my system went crazy. Anti virus would not load, conflict all over. After a few hours trying figure it out. I had to use RESTORE to get it back to working order. That gave me an idea, could it be the Norton things I have that are a problem? I remember reading whenever installing something new to disable all Norton, anti virus etc. Before the DSL card came I bought Firewall thinking I would have DSL running and would need the protection. I think you will probably say disable and try again but I figured I would ask first.
     
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    LNE100TX

    One more thing I did load the software first rebooted and then tried to put card in. NG
     
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    Remove the card if its back in your machine and boot to safe mode (F8). Go to device manager and remove any instances of this card. Go to the following site, download and install RegCleaner:
    http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/software.shtml

    Run RegCleaner and remove any references to this card. Reboot and then shutdown. Physically install the card and restart. When windows finds new hardware, pop in the CD and navigate to the 9X/Me folder and presto - you are done. This NIC card should present no problems for you. If you find you have an IRQ conflict and have trouble booting after this procedure, repeat it again and install this card in a different PCI slot.

    ;)
     
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    still need help

    Thanks for your advise it did not work
    I ran reg cleaner and did what you suggested it still hangs up on Updating box. I turned off Norton and tried everything. I thought I had it but then the system went crazy and I had to use restore to get it to work? I tried loading CD first eben though you said no, and tried it when box pops up but it freezes and will not read it. Now the good part. The card is in, but the system does not recognize it? hardware wizard does not see it, tried manually installing and got hung up again????
     
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    If it is hanging up at boot up there imay be an IRQ conflict.

    May be just a guess but do you have an Internal Modem still installed ?

    If so it is possible that it is messing up the works. And they can ( and will ) really gum up the works by PREVENTING PCI IRQ Steering from working properly.

    I had to pull a Modem today to get a Sound card to re-install properly.

    I use Linksys cards and have had no problem with them.

    Even XP.

    BillyBob
     
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    moco123

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    wow

    Yes I do have the modem, it is how I connect now and I am looking to go to DSL. You mean its that simple? How do I disable the modem? Or do I have to remove it?
    What happens then after LINKSYS is properly installed will I be able to turn the modem back "on "?

    Thanks very much
     
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    I would wait tio see if you get more input about my Idea first.

    I believe the Modem can be disabled in the Device Manager and things may workl. But sometime it does require physical removel of the modem.

    But as to re-installing the Modem after you get DSL working I believe may be touchy.

    Sometimes they will work together and some times they won't More times they won't . But it does somewhat depend on the Modem itself. A WinModem type is usally not forgiving.

    If you want both a Dial-up Modem and DSL you may have to go for and External Dial-up.

    I have used Linksys cards in anything from 95 up to and including XP with no problems.

    BillyBob
     
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    moco123

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    LINKSYS problems

    My unfortunate saga continues. For weeks now I have been trying to install a Linksys LNE100TX ver 5.1 LAN CARD
    It continues to freeze the computer. After install windows Me freezes at the updating hardware box. I have tried installing the software first and then after rebooting. When the update box appears I have tried putting in the CD and it still freezes. I have cleaned the registry and everything else suggested. At one point after the card was in different problems occurred and I had to use RESTORE to fix the computer. At that point the card was in but the computer did not recognize it. Used adding new hardware and it did not find it. Tried to manually do it and got stuck again at the updating box. I did disable the dial up modem I have and tried the whole thing all over and got the same results. I checked for conflicts and did not find any. Being a novice at this it is very frustrating trying to correct problems. Everyone, Dell, Linksys and help boards all say it should and will work but I can't get there. I even thought upgrading to XP might be the answer but I would rather not do that if it will be creating another headache. One thought was this card uses the same "info/protocol" (probably wrong word), "settings" maybe that the modem does. But after disabling it I still got nowhere. I tried another slot and same thing, changed the card to a new one and ditto. If it takes uninstalling the modem info that defeats the purposes as the modem would be a back up if the DSL is down. Oh yeah at one point after installing the Linksys CD and it freezing I had a great idea of uninstalling it. That destroyed my modem settings totally and that is when I used Restore. Have gotten message the CD did install program but windows will NOT update the hardware. ANy and all assistance will be greatly appreciated. Matthew
     
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    I believe that says very clearly that in that machine the Linksys ( or any network card ) will not live together peacefully with modem installed

    Unistalling the NIC should not have touched the Modem. UNLESS it is using the same Addresses or IRQs.

    Couple of Ideas.

    Go into the BIOS and check various areas and see if P-N-P OS is set to YES. Things seem to work much better when this is set to NO.

    Before trying again get into Windows explorer and lin the C:\Windows\inf and C:\Windows\inf\other folders and REMOVE any and all references to Linksys. Then shut the machine down ( power off ) before trying again.

    As to software for the NIC. What sofware are you refering to ? There is none that I know of. Only two driver files for the card. The rest is Windows Network files. But I never had a CD come with my cards. Only Floppys with drivers.

    Also another WILD idea just came up. Unless I read wrong somewhere, you are using Windows ME. If this is indeed true THAT MAY ALSO be part of the Problem.

    But unless someone can come up with other ideas I do believe you will need to physically remove the modem before the NIC will work. I have used Linksys cards in ME ( when I had it for a VERY short time ) with no problems. But I did not have and Internal Modem to deal with.

    From one of your other posts
    I agree to waste. I am gald you ignored that stupid instuction.

    How stupid can Dell get. Why would you want to back up a hard drive and re-install when it is a HARDWARE problems that exists.? It is VERY, VERY unlikely that a re-install of the OS will fix a HARDWARE conflict. In fact it may create MORE.

    And I do strongly believe that is what we have here. As I have run into it MANY times .

    SOMETIMES you can take the Modem out, put the NIC in , get it working then put the Modem back in.

    I had to do that to get a sound card to work properly just a few days ago. IN fact Win98 did not even see the sound card till I pulled the Modem

    BUT DO NOT COUNT on that working as it ALL depends on the Modem involved. If it is a WinModem type you can usually forget it

    BillyBob
     
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