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Resolved Is it safe to download 20H2

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by MrBill, 2021/04/04.

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    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member Thread Starter

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    It has been sitting on my PC probably since last Oct. or Nov. I know that they had problems with it for a while?
     
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    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Had it on all my comps since last year. No Problems.
     

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    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member Thread Starter

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    Guess I will bite the bullet and see how it goes.
     
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    Steve R Jones

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    WOW... Looks like the May 2004 version was installed in NOVEMBER on my machine.
     
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    Christer

    Christer Geek Member Staff

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    I would say NO, it's not safe. NOTHING is 100 % safe to download from Microsoft. MS have, without my consent, downloaded and installed several updates to drivers and "stuff" that was not needed. Currently, I have to restart my computer every other morning because the first start freezes the screen. Why did MS have to update my display driver? MS is sticking their fat fingers where they don't belong!

    The irony is that 20H2 or 21H1 (or whatever the choose to name it) may be the only solution to my problems but I will not be holding my breath.

    (Rant mode OFF but I really am p-i-s-s-e-d off.)
     
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    Installed mine in November and have not had any problems.
    Added-Just read an article by Susan Bradley in the AskWoody newsletter that recommends installation. She also includes several precautions as well as things to check for any possible negative results.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    For 99.999% of the users out there, it is totally safe. It installed with no problems on all 5 systems here in early June 2020.

    If you feel you are in that .001% bracket, probably should go with Linux.
     
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    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member Thread Starter

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    Downloaded it and so far not the first problem with it. I guess most of us are liked by M$ and a few aren't but still use it instead of going to the forbidden fruit of the APPLE. :p
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Well, there's always Linux for those who can't stand MS. Except for gaming, I have not found anything Linux won't do. And unless gaming is how one supports their family, I don't see that as a "need".

    I certainly would go with Linux before Apple because at least Linux runs on industry standard ATX Form Factor systems. If you go with Apple, you run into proprietary parts - never good, IMO.
     
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    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    I stuck with Windows 7 until the 20H2 build came out and finally upgraded my desktop PC to Windows 10 20H2 and turned off Automatic Updates so that I would be in control for when I chose to update my system. I recently had to fix a clients system that had a Windows Update installed that instantly blue screened the PC if it tried to print to a certain printer and had to resolve it by upgrading the system to 20H2 and install the latest updates from Microsoft to fix an issue that Microsoft themselves caused.

    I can't take that chance with these Windows 10 updates messing up my PC as I have had to fix dozens of Windows 10 systems over the last few years that have had problems caused by forced Windows 10 updates and upgrades to newer builds.

    Hopefully Microsoft will get better QA with releasing new Windows Updates but until they give power users the option to control what updates we can install, I'll be turning off Automatic Updates for the time being.
     
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    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Since I'm pretty much fully retired now, the experiences I encounter most are from tech news articles I read regularly, forum posts, my own family and household, and the small amount of residual business my little shop still sees from long time friends, customers and clients who still seek my help.

    I have also been a computer enthusiasts providing IS/IT support professionally for over 45 years, in this town for 35 years. My point here is I have many friends and colleague/contemporaries who are long time enthusiasts, computer tinkerers, and Windows tweakers with whom I regularly share experiences and consult with. So while more or less retired and only active doing this work for personal pleasure (instead of income) for a couple hours each morning instead of 8 - 12+ hours of work per day, I'm still in the game. And again it is my experience that, by far, most users, including me, have had no problems.

    And to clarify, by "no" problems, I mean nothing that a simple reboot didn't clear, or being patient for a few days to let Windows/MS work things out didn't resolve.

    But I am not going to pretend I have not seen much more serious problems with WU - for I certainly have. And for sure, for those users, it is most frustrating and aggravating. And since many bring those problems to me, I do feel their pain.

    But I have the following two observations that we have noted so many times, that we feel they are more than just one-off exceptions to the rule, or anecdotal.

    1. Those most likely to have encountered problems are users who upgraded W7 era hardware to W10.
    2. Those users who left W10 defaults as is encountered fewer problems.​

    I have gleaned from those two observations that hardware designed for W10 that had W10 installed on it from the start, running with the default settings for Windows Update and Microsoft Defender, gave those users the fewest problems. It also appears that those with the most experience and who have done the most tweaking and dinking with the defaults, are the ones with the most serious problems.

    That is, it seems the highly experience old-timers who refuse to hand-over the keys to Microsoft often have the most, and the most severe problems - at least with their older hardware. :rolleyes: And for sure, I have considerable Luddite in me too. I have Start 10 to bring back the familiar W7 desktop and start menu on my two main machines because I cannot stand W10's desktop and start menu. And I still enable and populate (with no less than 59 shortcuts!) the Quick Launch toolbar that came out of XP. I also immediately disable Cortana.

    Frankly, consider the fact there are over 1 billion W10 systems out there that became 1 billion unique systems within the first few minutes into their very first boot. Users set up their own networking, user accounts, countless combinations of various hardware from 100s or 1000s of different hardware makers, our own security, personalizations, installed software and more. So I am amazed how successful Windows Update is, week after week after week. And I think the developers at MS deserve some credit for that.
     
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