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Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by DDow, 2020/12/15.

  1. 2020/12/15
    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Too much time on my hands, so have found another minor irritant.
    I am dual booting W10 Pro and W7 Pro, and in the latter I have a VM running XP ( because I love using Quicken for all my finance records, and have done for years.)
    I would like to run a VM with XP in it from W10 for the same reason, just for convenience (a sort of back up as well).
    When I try to set up a “New Virtual Machine” in Hyper-V Manager, I get “An error occurred while attempting to start the selected virtual Machine. Hypervisor is not running”.
    I have gone into BIOS and turned on the Hypervisor, but when I try to go back into W7 VM machine, that then doesn’t work. It seems W7 needs the Hypervisor off, but W10 needs it on. I assume there is only one BIOS in each PC regardless of the number of OS within it.
    I would appreciate your time and thoughts. I will try almost anything !
    Regards
    David D
    I tried VirtualBox with the same Hypervisor anomaly.
     
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    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff

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    FWIW I am running Quicken Deluxe 2000 in Windows 10 and have done so since the release of Win 10. Installed in Compatibility Mode for XP Service Pack 3 the only issue is that the activation servers - in the UK at least, no longer exist and I have to reinstall Quicken every 30 uses - not a major problem for me.
     

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    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you for that Peter.
    My Quicken is Version 6 from I think 1997 and won’t load into W10.
    I would like to know how to have a VM machine working within each OS anyway, even if Quicken proves too difficult. regards
    David D
     
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    PeteC

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    I regret that I have no experience of VM's :(
     
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    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you for your time Peter,
    Regards
    DD
     
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    kwriley87

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    Rather than trying to work with unsupported and insecure technology that is over 20 years old, wouldn't the correct solution here be to buy the newest version of Quicken and start a new data file?

    Normally, I would say that you could just convert your existing Quicken data file to be compatible with your newer version but according to Quicken, you cannot convert Quicken data from Quicken versions older than 1998: https://www.quicken.com/support/how-and-when-use-intermediate-version-convert-older-versions-quicken

    Quicken 6 was released in 1996 for Windows 95 and is a 16 bit application. You cannot run a 16bit application on a 64bit operating system. If my suggestion above isn't a route that you want to take, then the only other recommended choice would be to set up a Windows 10 32bit VM (assuming your computer is running a 64bit version of Windows 10 like most people) and then install Quicken 6 from there since a 32bit OS does have the ability to run a 16bit application, you'd just have to run it in compatibility mode I'm sure.

    If you still receive the same hypervisor is not running error then I would check the following:

    1.) Ensure that the Hyper-V Virtual Machine Management Service is running (services.msc)
    2.) Open a command prompt and run: systeminfo

    The last 4 lines will show the Hyper-V requirements. Are all 4 showing "yes"?
    3.) What type of CPU is in your machine?
    4.) Are you running Windows 10 32bit or 64bit?
    5.) Have you enabled virtualization within the CPU settings of your system BIOS?
    3.) Is your BIOS up to date?
    4.) Have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the Hyper-V feature in Windows 10?
     
  8. 2020/12/17
    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you for your time and your answer.
    I went into BIOS and turned on Intel Virtual Tech, and I now do not get the "Hypervisor not running". I can now set up Virtual Hard Drives in Hyper-V Manager. (I haven't quite got the knack of adding an OS to the VM yet, but will play with it)
    I will try and answer your questions first.
    1) Hyper-V Virtual M M Services are running.
    2) The last line says "A hypervisor has been detected. Features required for Hyper-V will not be displayed.
    3)Intel(R)Core(TM)i5-2400 CPU
    4) W10 64 bit
    5) Enabled in Bios and hence that is why I presume, Hyper-V Manager is now Working
    6)BIOS not been updated, a bit wary of doing that though. Is from 2011
    7) No have not reinstalled Hyper-V features. Is it necessary now ?

    My hope was that I could, within W10, run a VM that I could put XP on, as the OS. I had thought that I could then just load my Old Quicken onto that, transfer the various Data files, and be up and running within W10.
    Thanks again
    David D
    I seem to have a CD for Quicken Year 2000 (based on Quicken 98 Deluxe as well) as well as Version 6
     
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    PeteC

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    As I posted earlier I am running Quicken 2000 in Windows 10.

    I suggest you give it a try …

    Copy the contents of the CD to your hard drive

    In the Win 95 folder run Setup.exe in Compatibility mode for XP Service Pack 3

    It should install OK
     
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    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks Pete,
    I will give it a go, and let you know,
    DD
     
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    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Yes Pete that worked. I now have to transfer the data files from W7 VM to the Quicken on W10 and see if that works OK.
    I have not had any notification that it only lasts a month, so will maybe just have to wait and see. I will use a data file that I don’t use now, as the test, I will play with this, and return to see what can be done with a W10 VM machine later
    Regards
    David D
     
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    PeteC

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    Great news :) After a few uses you will receive notifications that you can use the program a further xx times. When you have used up your allocation uninstall Quicken and then search for associated Quicken files on C:\ and delete them - see screenshot.. Then reinstall for another 30 uses - bit of a bind, but if like me you use the program infrequently not too much of an issue..
     

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  13. 2020/12/17
    DDow

    DDow Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks Pete,
    Trying to get Quicken set up with data files from the W7 VM, just needs fiddling with I think.
    I have just booted back into W7 and tried to open the “W XP Mode” VM and I get “Windows XP Mode could not be restored because of either host processor type mismatch or lack of hardware-assisted virtualisation support in the system”
    From past experience this means I will have to go back into BIOS and turn off “Intel Virtual Tech” which will then mean my W10 VM will not work as stated in my initial post. Don’t understand really why ?
    Regards
    David D
     

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