May Update Version 2004.

The issue remains the same. The only way is to switch off the SSD defrag to Never.

 

There is no option to "Defrag" in my comps.
I only find "Optimize" is the term used in Storage under Security and Maintenance.
Does the Defrag show when it recognizes "spinning platter" HDD's?

 

Why are you defraging a SSD? Thought thaty they were not supposed to be defraged because of the way they store info.

 

As I understand it MrBill this is a bug which is being noticed in Version 2004 by some users.
rsinfo is dubious about installing the latest version of W10 but I have noted on my comps that there is NO "defrag" option.
I have my maintenance set to "Optimize" Monthly which is what the OS will do on SSD's which is the 'Safe" way to get the best out of SSD's.

 

Defrag & Optimize are the same things.
Windows latest version correctly recognises SSD &HDD but doesn't optimises the SSD correctly.

 

This article is worth a read.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...garbage-collection-so-i-dont-need-trim-right/
Coupled with this link.
https://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx

 

No, Windows is not foolishly or blindly running a defrag on your SSD every night, and no, Windows defrag isn't shortening the life of your SSD unnecessarily. Modern SSDs don't work the same way that we are used to with traditional hard drives. (from https://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRealAndCompleteStoryDoesWindowsDefragmentYourSSD.aspx )

This is exactly what Win 10 ver.2004 is doing. It "forgets" that it has already optimized the SSD & after a while again runs the TRIM command. Running TRIM everyday, multiple times, would shorten the life of the SSD.

 

I should think the guys who are worrying about Trim working to keep their SSD's running as fast as possible should really worry that trim has been working for a number of years now and how many SSD's have worn out!!!

 

Apropos of Updating to Windows 2004 I would like to add my experience of today.

Firstly the PC is running Windows 10 Home V180914.1434 64bit and the OS is installed on an Intel 120GB SSD. It runs fine. But I keep getting told in Windows Update that I should be updating my version as it is coming to the end of its life.

So I have used the Update Assistant and downloaded the latest version only to be told that 'This computer can't run Windows 10'. Another nonsense from Microsoft.

Secondly I am told to ' Retry' and when I try again it says that Windows cannot be installed on a Flash Drive. Now I know that this is rubbish because there is a way to install a working model of the OS on a flash drive which can then be plugged into virtually any computer and it will run Windows 10.

Thirdly, how do I convince Microsoft, Windows 10 and the OS that my SSD is NOT a Flash Drive?

Any suggestions will be most welcomed.

 

Any help here?
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...hUKEwjio8rQrOnqAhUtILcAHaP3CMgQ4dUDCAY&uact=5

 

I think there is your problem. Space or lack of it stumps Windows & it gives non sensical messages.

 

Arthur, I've never had the problem where my SSD's were not recognized.
How much space do you have spare on the SSD?

 

I received this news from the Insider Preview program today and sure enough my last update was 20151!
It just downloaded the latest update which is now showing 20175 installed and finalized about 10 minutes ago.

 

Thanks for all your suggestions, retiredlearner and rsinfo. I think I have solved the problem because the MoBo that I am using does not seem to support UEFI. I don't know if that is the correct diagnosis, but I cannot get a copy of Windows 10 on a GPT drive to boot on this Motherboard. It is a Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H Rev 1.0 and has been around for a while. I am running Windows 10 Home 64bit and the CPU is a 2.8 GHz Athlon 64 x2. It seems quite happy with this combination but I am still getting the update prompts.

 

As you noted - the Motherboard is probably the problem.

The Version will be 1809. This is why you are getting the message.
Your comp would have suitable for W10 First release and following updates, but later updates require newer hardware and that's where the problem comes in.
As rsinfo suggested the 120GB SSD is not big enough by todays standards to run more than your emails and banking processes on.
If you wish to keep using the comp till it dies - ignore the update notice as the board will not handle the latest W10 version.
When the updates come in and the preparation and install processes are carried out - I have seen it suggested that up to 38GB's is required to carry out the job. Some Tablets run out of space very easily when an update has to installed.
If you have a look around the Laptop adverts these days, you will see them set up with SSD up to 120GB's to handle the OS only and the main storage is a 1TB drive to handle D: where the rest of your work can be stored.

 

I am running Win 2004 on the same old (ancient ?) hardware without any problem.

 

The desktop is old and the BIOS is a 2008 version. The latest that Gigabyte offer is a 2010 Beta. I will do an update and then try a fresh install using an empty SSD. I will first of all copy my data files to a flash drive and do a Belarc to note the installed software and other info I will have to replace. I have often seen the message “Windows can’t be installed on this computer” but calling an SSD a flash drive beats me.

 

https://www.enterprisestorageforum....lash-vs-ssd-storage-whats-the-difference.html
More confusion.

 

My home desktop was stuck at 90% for something like 12 hours so I tried this approach.

But ... it just shut down, and when I powered it up manually, it said "undoing changes to your computer."

I'm thinking I will have to take @Admin. 's approach and just wait a while.

 

I have found W10 to be the best OS yet from MS.
It is Robust and is quite adaptable and self learning and will probably be able to get your system back to normal after a few usages and Shut downs.
I have found that some of the earlier Updates sorted themselves out without hitting the panic button.
Give it a few days and let's know how it is then.