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Upgrades before Windows 10?

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by LarryB, 2019/10/07.

  1. 2019/10/07
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I have a 64-bit Win7 Ultimate desktop with a 256GB SSD, Gigabyte Mobo Z87-DS3H with an i5-4670k using an 1150 socket. 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 RAM.

    I will soon be reformatting the SSD and installing a clean Win 10. Should I update the processor to a new i5?? I don't do a lot of heavy lifting on this desktop. Will that socket support a new i5 or even an i7? Maybe go to a new 500Gb SSD? I use a separate HDD for the data drive.

    Lastly, do you know of a guide on the easiest way to save software, data, etc and do the W10 install. I already have it at work and use Classic Shell to make it more to my liking.

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
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  2. 2019/10/09
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Hi Larry. If you are on the 1150 socket then you won't be able to upgrade to a newer CPU without changing the entire motherboard. If your current CPU still is fast enough for your needs then just upgrade to a larger SSD.

    Are you trying to move existing programs and data over to Windows 10? You can copy over the data just fine but programs you will need to most likely reinstall them from scratch.
     
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  4. 2019/10/09
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    With the goop that Windows accumulates, my current happy rating with the current i5 is a little muddy. In your experience (and my not being a heavy resource user) would the older i5 (c2014) continue to be ok, or could it be getting close to the obsolescence cliff for years of Windows 10 use?

    I just got a 15.6" laptop for my wife for $500 with a new i5, 250Gb SSD, 8Gb RAM. Wow!
     
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  5. 2019/10/09
    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    This is what I have and the wife has the i5 and they are just about the same in all aspects. Speed as well.
    Asus X555LAB Intel Core i7-5500U CPU @ 2.40 GHz, 6GB of RAM, Win 10 Home 64 bit
    For my security: ALL FREE Windows Defender, SpywareBlaster, MBAM and Keyscrambler personal.
     
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  6. 2019/10/10
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    Your current core i5-4670k is still a decent CPU for Windows 10. You will see the biggest performance improvement upgrading to a modern SSD like a Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB drive and performing a clean install of Windows 10.

    You could always upgrade to a core i7-4790k which is the fastest CPU your motherboard supports without having to replace the motherboard, CPU, and RAM so that is something to consider.
     
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  7. 2019/10/10
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks Evan.
    I understand that the benefits of the i7 over the i5 are more about demanding processing uses. I am sure that 500Gb SSD will let Windows breathe a little more over the long haul. My current SSD is an 840 series. Is the 860 a big improvement?
     
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  8. 2019/10/11
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    The 860 is definitely faster but the big reason to upgrade to the 860 is that the SSD has much better reliability compared to the older models and it can last a lot longer depending on how much data you are writing to the SSD plus you'll get a higher capacity as well.
     
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  9. 2019/12/23
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I am sorry for the delay. I have stopped getting windowsbbs email notifications for some reason and, well, you know the rest!

    So, I should:
    1. Update SSD to 860 500Gb.
    2. Clean install of Win10
    3. Continue to use my HDD as the separate data drive.

    Regarding the clean install, is there a checklist somewhere on what to do to get from point A (now) to point B (including saving of programs, settings, etc)? Thanks again!
     
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  10. 2020/02/05
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    So Bill, I see that you have W10-64 Home and not Pro. Do you miss Pro's benefits? OEM is same as Retail except for portability? Thanks
     
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  11. 2020/02/05
    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    No I don't miss the pro. Ir has a couple more bells and whistles but I didn't need or use them.
     
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    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks, Bill.

    Also wondering about OEM vs Retail.

    Also, since I am replacing the existing Windows SSD with a new, larger one, should I do some kind of dual boot install so that the old WIN 7 SSD can be accessed for missing files, etc?? Is that advisable, difficult, problematic, reversible, etc??

    THANKS!!
     
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  13. 2020/02/11
    Evan Omo

    Evan Omo Computer Support Technician Staff

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    I would just download and run the Samsung Data Migration tool and use that to image your current system and transfer all of your data to the new SSD.
     
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  14. 2020/02/17
    LarryB

    LarryB Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Hi Evan, I would but I now have a separate HDD for data and plan to use that after the upgrades. Data is the easiest part of this process. It is the settings, the preferences, the accounts info, the unanticipated questions one gets with a clean install that those with no experience with Windows 10 seem likely to face.

    Is OEM vs Retail just about portability of the OS? Do you have a preference on how to "get" Win10? Download, Flash Drive, DVD? I am always a little concerned without a hard copy in hand. If download it, can it be put on a DVD as if it was a store bought MS DVD?

    Oh, sorry for the response delay. Never got the notification email.

    Thanks!!!!!!!!, Larry
     
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  15. 2020/02/17
    retiredlearner

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    If you use the MS Media Tool - you have the options to use ISO, USB drive or burn a DVD.
     
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  16. 2020/02/18
    Christer

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    I have a LapTop that came with Windows 10 Home preinstalled. The first week or so, I spent clearing all the garbage that Microsoft have decided that I need (but they were wrong).

    I have a DeskTop that was running Windows 7 Professional and I upgraded the system via a USB-device created by the tool. I did it from within Windows 7, connected to the internet. (Do not boot from the USB-device!) The installer found, downloaded and installed all necessary updates, including drivers. Most of my settings were transferred from Windows 7 to Windows 10, leaving very little for me to ponder. (I had tinkered with my LapTop and was not a total novice but you'll do just fine!)

    Finally, I cloned the original 500 GB HDD to a 500 GB SSD and had a "new" computer!

    Since you're planning to reformat and reinstall from scratch, why not try an upgrade and see how it works out?

    I already had a digital license for my DeskTop but according to sources on the web, if a system is upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10, it still gets activation by a digital license. I believe that to be true and you'll find that out too, meaning that you won't have to buy a new license for that specific computer even if you, at a later date, decide to install Windows 10 from scratch.
     
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