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Wiping my hard drive completely

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by blakston6286, 2016/11/30.

  1. 2017/01/03
    hawk22

    hawk22 Geek Member

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    Yes he has the DVD for 7, but I am fairly certain that he will not be able to run his DVD with 7 over Win 10. He has to either create a partition or remove the HD with 10 on it.
    You went forward, he is trying to go backward. MS allowed that when promoting 10 but you had to have 7 pre-installed, I don't think he has, don't know though.
     
  2. 2017/01/03
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Yes Bill you are correct. His laptop was installed with W10 - therefore he cannot go back to W7 as it was not previously installed. I can't see any other way than to remove the HDD and use a separate external holder as I described in my earlier Post.
     

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  4. 2017/01/07
    James Martin

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    Have you seen this, blakston6286?

    How to Erase a Hidden Hard Drive Partition | Techwalla.com

    It references diskpart.exe that others have pointed out, and it includes the necessary steps. I used this tool one time to remove hidden a OEM partition on a Windows 7 desktop, but the process required booting from a 2nd drive if I remember correctly.

    Is there any way you can remove your laptop's drive and install it as a second drive in another computer? Seems like the only way to get at and delete hidden OEM partitions on your new drive.
     
  5. 2017/01/08
    Christer

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    I believe that all "new" computers can boot from a USB flash drive, right? I run Image For Linux from a bootable USB flash drive and use it to backup my Toshiba Laptop. There is a trial version to download and the installer creates the bootable media. Choose the second link which is the version with GUI (Graphical User Interface).

    As in my first contribution to this thread, I have not used IFL for this purpose but provide a link to Help and Support for a manual. Page 92 is interesting but refers to a second manual. However, it seems like all you have to do is to select the correct drive and "Wipe Entire Drive". If you have two HDD/SSD connected, make sure that you "wipe" the correct one! (If you nuke the wrong one ... :rolleyes: ... don't blame me!)

    By the way, IFL runs in a Linux environment (hence "Linux" in the name) but it can work with any disk layout!
     
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    retiredlearner

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    I feel that because you have stated the above, you will need to get a friend with the ability to carry out our suggestions for you or pay a Technician to wipe the drives for you.
    I can understand why some people are lacking in practical ability to get into the workings of everyday devices (my wife is one). She will pull the drawers out of the refrigerator to clean them, and then call for me to put them back. She will also take the vacuum cleaner apart to clean the filters and dust collector, then I have to re-install everything.
    So if you cannot follow the suggestions - seek a friend or spend a buck.
     
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    James Martin

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    I was thinking about working in a Windows environment, but you are correct about booting from a flash drive. I've done it a few times for various reasons, but it's not something I do often. I'm downloading from the link you posted out of curiosity. I'll create the required image, burn it to a flash drive, and see how things go from there. Should be interesting.
     
  8. 2017/01/09
    Christer

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    I'm not sure that I understand what you're saying but no image should be created. Just extract the downloaded version (GUI) of IFL and run "makedisk.exe" which will create the bootable USB flash drive. Next, make sure that the computer will boot from the flash drive and run IFL from the flash drive. With all the drives "idling" (no OS running), wiping the drive should be no problem.
     
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    Christer

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    One additional note to potential testers. The flash drive will get formated in the process of making it bootable. No "old data" will be retrievable. Less than 100 MB get used so a small UFD will suffice.
     
  10. 2017/01/09
    James Martin

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    Correct, I saw that after exploring the zip folder. I haven't started yet, but I'll free up a flash drive ASAP and give it a go.
     
  11. 2017/01/10
    James Martin

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    IFL had no such partition deleting tool that I could gather, so I downloaded BootIt Bare Metal to gain access to the partition tool, but my version of the product seemed to be for demo only.

    I also downloaded rsinfo's tool Download GParted Live - MajorGeeks and burned it to disc. This tool reminds me of Fdisk as it is run within a DOS environment, but it allowed me to see my Toshiba Windows 7 OEM recovery partition, C drive, and another hidden partition with the option to delete all three.

    Neither tool was all that difficult to work with, but BootIt Bare Metal had the most hoops to jump through. It took me a while figure them (hoops) out, but they are not as complicated as they look.
     
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    Who is the manufacturer of the HDD?
     
  13. 2017/01/10
    Christer

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    Sorry for the confusion ... :eek: ... I'm obviously at a stage where I only look at pictures in the manual. In the payed version of IFL, the tool is there but it requires a license for BootIt Bare Metal to run, which is stated in the manual. I have nothing to "nuke" so regrettably, I can't test it.
     
  14. 2017/01/10
    James Martin

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    This is a very informative thread. Found some great tools and advice.

    If I were blakston6286, I'd burn GParted to disc (if he hasn't already) and give it try. For what it's worth, I tried burning the tool to a USB drive with Rufus, but Rufus didn't support the GParted image - or in other words, it wasn't bootable from a flash drive.

    You talking to to me, LJ?
     
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    James Martin

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    I beg your pardon, GParted Live allows you to use your mouse.

    Correction: I forgot to mention that I downloaded CopyWipe, too, which has since been integrated with BootIt Bare Metal. CopyWipe, itself, is not supported anymore, but it is still available (for free), and it appears to be a DOS only program.

    Sorry if mislead anyone. I was up late last night when I experimented with these programs. I could access all hidden partitions with either of these tools. Anyone using CopyWipe needs to press F6 to view a given drive's partitions.
     
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    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I would venture to say that the OP has gave up. Hasn't been here in 2 weeks.
     
  17. 2017/01/11
    hawk22

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    Me, thinks so too. But all the same good info for someone looking into attempting something similar.
     
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    MrBill

    MrBill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I agree. Would be nice it the OP came back and let us know what they did.
     
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    lj50 Lifetime Subscription

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    I was asking blakston6286. James who is the manufacturer of your HDD?
     
  20. 2017/01/12
    James Martin

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    One Toshiba drive in the laptop, and I have two Seagate drives in the Dell desktop. I use the 2nd Seagate drive to store my backup images on from both machines.
     
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    James Martin

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    I'll second that.

    From my experience, a user can make backup discs of the pre-installed operating system just in case things don't go as planned with the Windows downgrade. I actually lost access to my Windows 7 recovery partition after partitioning C drive, but luckily that access was restored after using the set of recovery discs I made earlier.
     

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