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  1. 2003/01/13
    roy66

    roy66 Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    I have a new Pentium 4/2
    Asus P4B533MOB
    Seagate ATA100 40G 7200rpm HD
    XP Home

    I am wanting to incorporate as slave my previous HD..Western Digital UATA Mod.AC28400 8G 5400rpm on which I have all previous data etc. from Win98

    Will my new PC accomodate the two different HD

    And will my motherboard handle the two different versions..WinXP and Win 98

    Is XP ...NTFS and Win 98 fat32. If so does this create a conflict?

    I have followed instructions for jumper setting on the slave and entering the info into the BIOS but still no go.....it is not accepted.

    I tried to run Drive Image 4 but Xp won't accept that either.........more money, money, money.

    Should I give up or is there a solution??????

    Happy New year
    roy66
     
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    mflynn

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    Roy

    Most likely the new HD is on the primary controller. The CD is on the secondary controller. The secondary is what you want to use.

    For simlpicity and performance you should leave the new HD alone. Change nothing on this.

    1. Set the BIOS to AUTO on the secondary controller.
    2. jumper the old drive back to master
    3. unplug the CD cable from the motherboard
    4. slide out the CD it has a jumper to set it to a slave, do so
    5. now connect old hd to motherboard and slave the cd from it

    Depending on your controller putting this older HD on the new HD cable could slow down the new HD.

    By using the secondary controller you eliminate that possibility. Otherwise there is no problem installing this drive.

    One thing you should do before doing the above is Conrtol panel-Administrative tools-Computer managment-Disk management. Find the CD and rt click and change its drive letter to be the last drive. If your new drive has only a c: but your old drive had a c: and d: then when you add the old drive XP will have a c: d: e: so you want to make the cd to be drive f: which is the last drive. This will allow the drive letters to fall into place properly.

    NOW YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS

    XP could be using NTFS or fat32 it will recognize either. Most likely it is NTFS. In My Computer rt click drive c: go to properties it will tell you.

    Your win98 will not run but XP will see and access all the files. You will be able to copy etc.

    Win98 could run if you reinstalled it and chose the old drive. This is because XP allows multi boot. If you were to do this you would get a prompt when you turn on asking which OS you would like to run.

    But that is another story for now. First you just need to get the old HD installed and working.

    If you want to keep your options open to dual boot win98 and it does have many advantages. Then do not delete or change anything on the old drive.

    Mike
     

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    roy66

    roy66 Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Dear Mflynn,

    Thanks for your most informative and well presented response.
    HOWEVER....I overlooked to mention that the secondary IDE is already occupied with a DVD and a CDRW...therefore I hooked up to the primary IDE setting this second drive as slave.

    Whilst your input is appreciated it seems I am still painted into a corner!!!!!

    roy66
     
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    mflynn

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    Then if you want to use this drive on the new HD the step you did not mention is to change the jumpers on the new HD to master.

    You said that you had already changed the old drive to slave.

    In BIOS set the Primary slave as auto!

    The steps to correct the position of the CD is still nessesary but do it to both drives if they are now d and e then make them e and f (if your old drive was only a c: ).

    Not knowing the capabilities of your controller I will make the following suggestion.

    If you have made it these past years on 8g then don't even slave it. You now have 40G.

    But you probably need the data from that drive. So hook it up temporarily and copy what you need and then remove it.

    You would do the same as in my last message except don't bother the CD drive letters.

    Unplug the cd cable from the CD's not the motherboard. Plug up the old HD.

    Boot up. Make a folder on the new hd (maybe call it Old Drive C)and copy everything from the old to this folder. Then shut down remove the old HD reattach the CD's. Boot back up and get what data you need from the old c drive folder put it where you want on the new HD. Later after you have gone thru it you could delete the Old.

    Donate the 8g to a friend with an older computer!

    mike
     
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    mflynn

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    Additionally Roy.

    After you copy these files to the new HD. XP has what is called the Files and settings transfer wizard.

    You could use this to install the software you had on the old HD into XP without having to manually install them individually or even using the original CD's.

    The wizard will allow you to pick and chose what to transfer to XP.

    mike
     
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    roy66

    roy66 Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks Mike,

    It's running OK now....I was doing the jumper settings from the wrong end...even got to the point that on boot up the bios would not recognise any drives at all and I have 4 altogether + floppy

    Thanks for your very friendly info..much appreciated.

    As an elderly gent with poor retention abilities I ventured into computers a couple of years ago without any knowledge what so ever..and just tinker my way along with the help of kind folk like yourself.

    Now that is is running with the 2 hard drives and correctly designated I shall look into your suggestion about the files and setting transfer wizard.

    To me this XP is still a bit tricky and throws up at me things I never experienced with 98.

    Here is one below that I have posted under Win XP...lotsa lookers but no one has been able to help me on it.

    Script File
    XP Home

    Having clicked on a URL link I received in an email from Langalist I get the message.......cannot find the script file.

    The file was looked for in C\: Documents and settings\Roy\Setup.inf

    Never encountered that problem with Win98.

    Obviously a simple solution..but beyond me at the moment......something to do with admin settings i presume.

    Roy66
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    mflynn

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    I don't know what this could be. I can tell you it was going to run a script and install something.

    Probably good it did not run.

    If it was a one time thing then I would delete it and forget it. Did you get the message?

    Probably not related to XP or Win98 specifically. And definately not ADMIN settings.

    Mike
     
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    reboot

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    Roy, I appreciate your efforts to become tecchy at your age :D
    As to your "script" problem.
    Just like Win98, XP has "msconfig ", which you can use to deselect programs from starting up with windows.
    To access it, go to Start > Run > and type in: msconfig
    Go over to the Startup tab, and look at all the entries there.
    There is NOTHING in that list that you absolutely need, however there are things best left alone, and other things you may not even recognize. Not to worry. Take the tick mark out of the box in front of anything you like, you can untick all of them if you desire, they won't disappear, they just become inactive, and you can reselect them at any time.
    You should find a line near the bottom that probably starts with "run=" or something similar, and it will reference the file you mention above. Take out the tick mark, and after a restart, you should no longer be bothered by it.
    This is normal behaviour, when a program or download is deleted, instead of uninstalled the way Windows wants it.
    It's also possible that "setup.inf" is a trojan, and I recommend you do a thorough virus scan to make sure.
    Any more troubles, don't hesitate to post.
     
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