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Resolved Clone or Clean Install to SSD?

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by PeteC, 2015/09/20.

  1. 2015/09/20
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    I intend to replace the slow 750 GB 5400 rpm hard drive on my laptop with a 250 GB SSD and am wondering about activation - laptop has UEFI bios which I understand holds the product key.

    I recently made a clean install of 10 on the laptop from the ISO file which was automatically activated.

    Question is - if I clone the existing drive (which currently has only ~30 GB used) using Acronis 2015 would the clone be automatically activated? As a side note I have read that the install of Win 10 differs depending on the type of drive to which it is installed and cloning from a HDD to SSD would carry over the HDD settings - whatever they are. There is also the question of the partitions being resized - no problem with the C drive, but I wonder about the 450 MB and 100 MB partitions created by the install.

    OTOH if I made a clean install on the SSD would this be automatically activated? My understanding is that activation is tied into the mobo and is unaffected by changes to hard drive or graphics card so I would guess so.

    I am leaning towards a clean install as being the best option - any thoughts?
     
  2. 2015/09/20
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Pete, I did a clone from my HDD (W8.1 Pro) to a 250GB SSD - no problems. The only extra action required for me was the finalizing of my HP printer.
    Windows asked me to insert the HP CD and it was all done in less than a minute.
    The same thing happened when I Upgraded to W10 on this SSD. I had no problem with activation with the clone or the Upgrade.
    I think the HD renewal and additional RAM and Graphics are accepted without the activation, but I will stand corrected if wrong.
    I have renewed the Graphics card without the need for activation when I was running W8.1 on the HDD. Hope this helps your decision. Neil.
     

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  4. 2015/09/21
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    I have had successful clonings but I prefer clean installs - especially if the source drive has been through a lot of changes with installed service patches, OS upgrades, hardware change out, etc. If you started out with Windows 7 or Windows 8.x then upgraded to W10, there will be a whole bunch of remnant files and Registry entries left behind. I really don't want them on my new drives (especially SSDs which tend to be smaller and still cost more per Gb).

    Also, there will be bunches of superseded Windows Updates, security program updates and files, and other program updates you don't need on your new SSD. There may even be a bunch of programs you downloaded, installed, but don't use any more. Why clone them to a new drive?

    The "license" is tied to the motherboard - activation is tied to some hash sum based on all the hardware detected. If you have a UEFI motherboard, this information is in motherboard firmware and it would be highly unlikely swapping out everything but the motherboard itself would trigger new activation. But even it did, it rarely requires anything more than clicking a few links and the automated process is done. It has been probably more than 8 years since I actually had to pick up the phone and call MS - but even then it was automated.
     
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  5. 2015/09/21
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Thank you both for the valuable responses :)

    @Bill - as I noted in my opening post I made a clean install of W10 a couple of days ago in preparation for cloning so all the c**p left over from the 8.1 to 10 upgrade is gone.

    The SSD is in transit and has to be installed in the laptop prior to cloning anyway so a clean install would seem to be the preferred option.
     
  6. 2015/09/21
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Bill, I used CCleaner, cleared Temp files, defragged with Auslogic and made sure all drivers were updated and the latest versions of Mozilla were working OK before I did my clone.
    Currently there is 52GB's used on the 250GB SSD. Neil.
     
  7. 2015/09/22
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    All excellent precautions - especially the clean install before cloning to get rid of remnants of old operating systems.

    Sadly, many don't clean out the clutter before cloning. But then if the drive they are cloning to has plenty of space, then there's probably no big deal.

    I am just saying my personal preference when "upgrading" or building a new PC is to start with a fresh install of the OS.
     
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  8. 2015/09/23
    PeteC

    PeteC SuperGeek Staff Thread Starter

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    Clean installed W10 on the new SSD without issue - auto activated - installation took less than 1/3 of the time on the old 5400 rpm HDD!

    Thanks for the advice :)
     
  9. 2015/09/23
    retiredlearner

    retiredlearner SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Another success story for W10. :D Love the SSD's. I get a good comparison with W10 on one comp on HDD and this one on SSD. Neil.
     
  10. 2015/09/23
    Bill

    Bill SuperGeek WindowsBBS Team Member

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    Yeah, I'll take a slow SSD over a fast HD any day. I will never [willingly] go back to HDs.
     
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