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Resolved Why is Win 7 Home Prem faster than Win8.1?

Discussion in 'Other PC Software' started by Bigalx58, 2014/12/01.

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    Bigalx58

    Bigalx58 Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    It seems to me that it is contrary to popular belief that Win7 is faster than Win 8.1. My desktop pc runs Win7 Home Prem and my HP laptop runs Win 8.1 I find that Win 7 responds much faster during boot up times, when I navigate the web and when I play Pogo games. What can I do to remedy this situation? Thanks.
     
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    What are the hardware specifications for your Desktop and your HP laptop? To find out, do the following on each one:
    Download, install and run Speccy. Click File > Publish Snapshot > Yes > Copy to Clipboard and then paste in the URL you just copied into a Reply to this thread. ​
     
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    My HP Notebook W8.1 beats the W7 Pro to the Desktop by at least 30 seconds.
    Notebook has 1.8GHz Intel Celeron and 8GB's RAM.
    The specs for my Tower are under System. Neil.
     
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    Bigalx58, you are not doing apple to apple comparison.

    Your desktop is having Intel i3 with 6 GB RAM as compared to notebook which has AMD with 4 GB RAM. Plus the notebook would have 5400 rpm hard disk. All these combine to make you believe that Win 8.1 is slower than Win 7.

    I am using both Win 7 & Win 8.1 and haven't seen any major differences on comparable computers.
     
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    Even more extreme, the desktop has an i5 (Introduction date Jan 9, 2011), vs AMD K140 (Introduction date July 22, 2009).

    Both HD's are of the slow 5,400 RPM though, even the desktop one.

    On the same hardware, Windows 8 runs circles around Windows 7.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    The Intel Core i5 in your Windows 7 machine runs at 2.8 GHz, which is 65% faster than the AMD E2-1800 at 1.7 GHz in your Windows 8 laptop.

    The Core i5 also has 4 cores compared to 2 cores in the AMD and the i5 has 6x more L3 cache per core.

    In other words, the i5's more cores improve multi-threading performance, (because it can handle more simultaneous threads), its base frequency is much higher and, it features SSE4.1 / SSE4.2 / AVX instructions which are not included in the AMD.

    The i5 Passmark score is 5,627 vs 806 for the AMD
    The i5 Geekbench is 6,877 vs 1,618 for the AMD
    The i5 GPU turbo score is 1,100 MHz vs AMD's 680 MHz

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    Your Windows 7 machine has 6GB of RAM and your Windows 8 laptop only has 4GB.

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    The hard drives in both of those machines are old, mechanical beasts with platters spinning at a mere 5,400 RPM.

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    CPU - The laptop's CPU cannot be upgraded because it's soldered to the motherboard ... which means it would cost more to replace the motherboard than the laptop is worth.

    RAM - Upgrading the RAM in the laptop to 8GB would help.

    Hard Drive - Replace the old spinners with SSDs (Solid State Drives) for a marked performance increase. (My Windows 7 machine goes from completely off to on the 'net in 21 seconds).
     
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    Bigalx58

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    For what it's worth, I ran the SFC scan on the laptop and found that it couldn't repair 5 corrupted CbsPersist##########.cab files. Would that make any difference?
    In any case, thanks very much for your info and suggestions!
     
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    SpywareDr

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    Try deleting the cbs.log, cbs.persist.log and CbsPersist##########.cab files and then run another "sfc /scannow" and let us know what happens.
     
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    Bigalx58

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    I deleted the files as suggested, to the best of my ability...ran sfc twice because CBS.log windir\logs\CBS\CBS.log appeared again...even after I deleted it the first time. The previous files didn't show up. Haven't noticed any improvement.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    It's supposed to appear when you run the "sfc /scannow" command. When it finishes running, you should see, in part "Details are included in the CBS.Log windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log ".
     
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    Bigalx58

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    Yes, that's what I see...I guess I'll try bumping up the RAM....hopefully that will speed things up. Thanks.
     
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    SpywareDr

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    Yep. Maxing out the RAM and replacing the HD with a SSD would be the most that could be done. Even with that though, the computer will still never be able to "think" faster than that AMD CPU will allow.
     
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