Do corded mice last longer?

My smartphone connects its local network of Wi-Fi devices to the cellphone company's 4G network ... two discrete networks.

 

It is still a discrete function. The fact it is happening in one physical device is immaterial.

A WAP, router, switch, and modem can all be integrated into a single device, sharing the same chassis, power supplies and mainboards. Regardless how they "interface" - they are discrete components.

 

So what you're saying is it is not acting as a wireless router?

 

"Acting as?" I did not say that. I am saying there is no such thing as a "wireless router ".

You are looking at your phone as 1 device. It is not. It is many jammed into one little case.

My cell phone allows me to store and play songs. So, are cell phones MP3 players? My cell phone also allows me to connect via Bluetooth to my truck's sound system, so is it now a Bluetooth MP3 player? On the other hand, I can use BT to connect to my computer to copy off all my email contacts and calendar schedule, so is my cell now a PDA?

Your smartphone is a cell phone. But it has a WAP function to support connecting computers by setting up your own "hotspot ". And it has a router function to connect the hotspot to the Internet. But the router function itself is not "wireless ".

 

OMG! You mean because all electronic devices contain wires inside they cannot be called wireless? That's the first time I've even heard that definition. By "wireless" I mean the same thing as the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

 

Really do you even need to ask that Bill what do think I am some sort of noob I do know how to sync a wireless KB/Mouse whether it be RF or BT

 

Really? Where did I say anything to suggest that? That is the first you heard of it because you just made it up and said it first here! If you are going to simply make up stuff and pretend others said it in a puerile attempt to discredit others and obfuscate the issue, then Homey don't play dat and I am out of here.

I have NEVER said wireless means anything but data transmitted without wires - as in radio (RF). Follow the link in my sig - I know a bit about radio technologies.

If you are going to start tossing definitions at me, look up router!!!!

One more time - Your smart phone is setting up a wireless LAN for local computers to connect to your phone via its internal WAP (wireless access point). Data packets from connected computers coming through your WAP then scoot all the way across the tiny circuit board (that is, through wires and PCB circuit traces) in your phone to the integrated router (another IC and firmware component) inside your phone. The router components then do what routers do and "routes" those data packets across the circuit board again through more wires and PCB circuit traces (that is, NOT via RF) to the cell phone network components. That is, the router components connect one network to another through the hardware (wires, ICs, circuit board runs - not RF!) in the phone.

So ONE MORE TIME - there are NO SUCH THINGS as "wireless routers ". The connection between your wireless LAN and the wireless cell phone network (the "routering ") is done internally via wires and circuit board traces - not RF!!!

Right, because you are so special, everybody already knows your skillsets and experiences or because everyone is supposed know how to read your mind (and run on sentences!)

 

You're got a mighty big job on your hands trying to convince everyone that there is no such thing as a wireless router . . . because it has wires inside.

 

My nearly 6-year old MS mice and keyboards are too - though not sure I can say the same for my desk's keyboard tray!



And sorry Steve but I have to say one last thing for clarification, in case there are other readers wanting the facts and I promise it will stop with this.

Again, not what I said. Even a radio has wires. "Wireless router" is a marketing term only. "Routing" functions are done in DC switching circuits. Not radio frequency ( "RF ") circuits. Nothing "RF" is happening in the router circuits - except perhaps unwanted RFI. Therefore, no "wireless routing" is happening, and that's my point!

The only wireless going on is the "connection" between the WAP and computers (whether using smartphone or home wireless network) and the "connection" between the smart phone's modem and the ISP (for cell-based networks). The connection from WAP to router is via wire, not radio. And the connection from router to modem is via wire, not radio - even when all the devices are integrated into one.

The fact you - we - cannot "see" these "discrete" networking devices individually is immaterial.

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Now this topic is not even about wireless networks, cell or home - but corded vs wireless mice. So my apologies to Paul, and all, in my part in running this OT, and especially for the sad "tone" it took.

So back on track, I personally much prefer wireless mice, if for no other reason than there is no "tether" that pulls on the mouse, gets snagged on something or tripped over sending the mouse flying at the dog. That said, I will ALWAYS keep a wired mouse (and keyboard) handy for troubleshooting purposes.